Will the left come clean?

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My question, will the left come clean? Will they admit they are shaping their strategy to the 8 points described here?
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    Who Are the ‘Useful Idiots,’ Really?
    July 5, 2016 by Dan Wilhelm


    Today, I’d like to respond to a piece of propaganda of indeterminate origins. It made the rounds on Facebook as recently as three weeks ago, so evidently somebody, somewhere, still feels it’s true enough to disseminate to all of their distant cousins and casual acquaintances.

    The propaganda in question is a purported newspaper op-ed, from no newspaper in particular, from a person named David Greer, who doesn’t seem to exist, about a Saul Alinsky quote he never said.

    The thrust of the argument is that the creation of the dreaded “social state” requires the central power structure — that is, the federal government — to leverage the so-called “Useful Idiots.”

    Whole article available at:
    https://themoderatevoice.com/who-are-the-useful-idiots-really/
     
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    You have my sympathy. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So I take it you have studied Sol Alinsky? Tell me, why do those points not align with his ideology? Why don't they align with yours?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course they are. I know those far more paranoid than me! This new administration is pulling toward those 8 points in every single way. They should be paranoid of the consequences.
     
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    I have said on this very forum for years; everything democrats do... every single thing... seeks to increase dependence on government, and curtail freedom. They will have you believe that total dependence on government enables freedom, when exactly the opposite is true.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They sell out individual choice and liberty for the collective elitists at every point!
     
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    Did you even look at the link?
    I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt if you can give a credible source for your article. What paper did it appear in. What are the author's credentials?

    I haven't spent a lot of time studying Alinsky. I also don't have a first hand knowledge of Santa Claus, but I suspect strongly he ain't coming to town.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then you are not credible in your assertion that this does not line up with Sol Alinsky. I have read portions of "Rules for Radicals" and I believe it is all in line with his ideology....as it is in line with the direction of our current administration and most likely supported by you. I have seen these rules posted elsewhere. This source was most convenient. Even if this was a made up, fabricated source it is obvious to most, this is where we are headed at the current direction. I think most Democrats are gleeful about that.
     
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    Let me explain this more clearly. The article you quote/show is not true. If is fake. It was never in a newspaper. There is no record of the supposed author. He does not exist. The things said in the article attributed to Alinsky were not said by him. Whether I have studied Alinsky does not change any of those facts. The assertion is not my assertion it is the assertion of the article I cited.
    My assertion is that your argument doesn't hold any water and is a reflection of your own bias and the need to find something "convenient" to support it
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My My here is more.....another one for you to refute.
    https://bolenreport.com/saul-alinskys-12-rules-radicals/
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