Woman Dies after being denied Airline passage.

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  1. FFbat

    FFbat New Member

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    I'm sorry, but the only people responsible for this woman's death are those close to her who couldn't convince her to put the cookie down.

    http://gma.yahoo.com/obese-woman-denied-flights-home-dies-abroad-191137549--abc-news-topstories.html
     
  2. tkolter

    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    Lets see look at her, I'm fat but not that fat and if I do travel I never flew yet I find buses, trains and ships far more comfortable and laid back for meto enjoy my trip. Why was she traveling with kidney problems and that fat unless it was vital say for medical care?
     
  3. Kranes56

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    If she had medical problems, she should have planned this out better. At the same time, the airlines should make sure their seatbelts can extend far enough. It's kind of embrassing that they weren't.
     
  4. FFbat

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    I'm sorry, but there is no excuse for getting like that. You doom yourself.
     
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    Glandular problems, and she had one leg.
     
  6. FFbat

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    You know how you get Glandular problems? because the insulating fat traps heat, that would normally make it's way to the skin to be shed, eventually causes damage. I don't deny that Glandular problems make things incredibly difficult, but it's the end result of a problem that began with yourself. You never put the cookie down, so now you can't? how is that still not your own fault?

    And after more research, You find that she had diabetes. The kind you get from too many carbs. While I found no facts corroborating this, I estimate that the loss of her leg was a result of that disease. Same as the Kidney Failure. And those with Diabetes have a harder time with weight.

    Once again, Anybody else having to share the blame for her obvious suicide by obesity is absurd. That would be like blaming a street sweeper for somebody jumping off a building.
     
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    Can't you also be born with the problem? The story never says why she's obese in the first place.

    t.

    Diabetes is not just a simple, "you're overweight, you got it problem." There are a lot of factors that go into it, and picking out she's obese out of the many possible reasons, is simply silly. She could have gotten it anytime, and for any reason.

    Yes, suicide by obesity is just like saying you had a heart attack, so you did suicide by heart. It's just silly.
     
  8. FFbat

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    If you die from a preventable death that you are aware of, and have the means to counter, then the result is on yourself.

    As for how you end up with diabetes, there is a clear distinction between Type 1 and type 2 diabetes. Neither is going to leave you in that condition if you take care of yourself.

    And the same can be said for heart attacks. There is a genetic predisposition to getting either Diabetes or Heart Disease that you can easily identify by looking at your relatives or even be tested for. There are also ways to avoid these.

    It is clear from just looking at a description that this woman had not taken care of herself before it was too late.
     
  9. NCstudent

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    true, she shouldn't have traveled while sick. and because she chose to do so she assumed the risk. also, she could have gone to a hospital while there. though i doubt they were as good as her original hospital, it would have been better than simply dying.
     
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    I wouldn't say in all cases, but in this one yes.

    She was going to the doctors. She got medicine. Isn't that taking care of yourself.
    Yes there are ways to avoid these, like medicine, exercise, watching what you eat etc.
    Unless the description told you the history, it's all for naught. We don't know how she lost, or even when.
     
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    She should've booked a flight on a Skycrane, not an airliner.

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    This is most shameful aspect of our system that their rules has made life of people so difficult that they hardly survive on this land
     
  13. FFbat

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    We talking about the same topic?
     
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    Suicide by cholesterol? Suicide by nicotine? There are some things people will stay mum about while picking on fat people without mercy. Fat is less preventable than smoking-related illness, yet I'll bet a number of those who attack the obese for their problems are smokers, and/or eat unhealthy things that can lead to high blood pressure and clogging of the arteries. Unhealthy eating habits aren't so visible if they don't make a person fat, however, so they're harder to target and pick on if the person in question isn't fat as a result.
     
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    A boot-strap-pulling con like yourself should consider starting a special airline just for fatties :D
     
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    I see both sides of this.

    The woman obviously shouldn't have been traveling with medical conditions. She probably shares some responsibility, if not most of it, for the physical condition she was in as well.

    On the other hand, the airline that flew her to Hungary made arrangements for her size and accommodated her on her trip over there. They also made a point of inquiring when her return trip would be so they could make similar arrangements. What that tells me is, the airline was capable of accommodating this woman. When the woman tried to return to the U.S. using the same airline that made accommodations for her in the first place, she was denied when she had a very legitimate expectation that she would be able to return in the same manner that she arrived.

    I don't know if the airline is legally responsible, but it was obviously within the bounds of what they were capable of doing since they had already done it once.
     
  17. FFbat

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    Or, you know, she could have put the cookie down years ago and lived a much better life and not died so early?
     
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    More frivilous lawsuits. Trying to push more liability onto business owners just drives up costs for everyone else.
     
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    Hungary is a former Communist country and the local airport where the couple initially boarded the flight home may be far from modern and the KLM flight was not equipped with a seat-belt extender to accommodate her, which could have been easily available in America and in Prague, Delta’s plastic wheelchair couldn't hold her weight and travelling to Eastern Europe comes with unexpected risks because the entire region is still as impoverished as the Third World after 50 years of Communist rule and the levels of disabled accessibility at Eastern European airports are substandard but the couple braved the risks because they wanted to see their home country before she passes away.

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    those are consumption stats you list not poverty ones, poverty in eastern europe is nothing like you paint it to be, its a million miles from a third world country, hungary for example is more affluent than several states of the usa. I think you get your opinion of eastern europe from 1980s b movies.
     
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    here you go http://www.indexmundi.com/hungary/population_below_poverty_line.html the poverty rate in hungary is 13.9%, which is lower than the united states btw, and your graph suggests its over 70, laughable ignorance.
     

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