Woman gets tased, hand-cuffed, and arrested for "not wearing a mask."

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  1. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    They were tased, handcuffed, and arrested?
     
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    Yup
     
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    What are you trying to be, the next Atilla the Hun?
     
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    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    What were they doing? Sitting on an outdoor bleacher?
     
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    Nope, when you are asked to leave an establishment and you refuse, you are trespassing. That is literally how the law has worked since the foundation of this country

    It’s like if I invited you in my house and asked you to take your shoes off when you entered and you refused, so I then ask you to leave. If you do not leave when I ask you to, you are legally trespassing. You’re not going to be charged for not taking off your shoes, you are going to be charged with trespassing.

    You might not agree with it, but that is how the law works and how it has worked for as long as this country has existed
     
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    My apologies. Too many people are defending someone who resisted arrest. All your arguments are silly.
     
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    The constitution allows the state to regulate guns. It doesn't allow them to take away equal rights, free speech, and religion the moment you walk in a courtroom.
     
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    Which word in 2A allows regulation? Since when are schools no longer allowed to have a code of conduct? Since when are youth athletic organizations not allowed to have a code of conduct?
     
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    "Well Regulated"
     
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    Which part of the constitution says you have no right to go into a government building naked?
     
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    The constitution protects rights that you have and gives the State the power to set law outside of those rights. There is no constitutional right to run around naked.
     
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    There's no constitutional right to ignore global pandemic guidance, either.
     
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    Right to life includes not wearing a mask when you have asthma, heart disease, or any medical condition that increases your risk of death due to lack of oxygen and difficulty breathing.
     
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    If you like, but the religious amongst us would object.

    If you're beautiful in the buff people might applaud. If not, people will look the other way. :angel:
     
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    I asked you questions. Are you happy with the outcome? So the answer is yes. And yeah, she's alive which is more than others can say after encounters with the police. Not all were killed unjustly of course.

    I think you're mistaking actual discussion for trolling because this site is nothing but trolling or affirmation seeking. If you can't stand by your viewpoint on the discussion one way or the other, that's my fault. And if you have a more complicated answer, then feel free to share it. And no, I didn't read all 16 pages of the post, sorry.
     
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    I asked several questions. I will repeat it.

    Did she follow the rules and/or laws established? When the police were called due to her refusal, did she comply with their orders? If no, did she face the expected consequence? If the answers are no, no, and yes, then what's your gripe over?
     
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    Please don’t say “I didn’t bring up black lives matter” when keep talking about “at least she’s alive”. Of course you’re making a reference, so stop BSing.

    And how many black women have been killed by cops for simply arguing with them? If you’re going to make stupid comments, how about supporting your BS? Go ahead. Cite the numbers of all the black women killed for not wearing a mask. GO!!! I’ll save you the time. No black women have been killed for not wearing a mask. So this white woman is alive just like black women are still alive too. Being an ***** has nothing to do with color. You’re going to disobey the rules of an establishment, then you either leave peacefully or get dragged out on your face for being an idiot.
     
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    So are you saying that George Floyd was killed for the alleged counterfeit 20, instead of resisting arrest?

    Because - it's either one or the other. Is resisting arrest okay sometimes? Can you outline all the various reasons one can resist arrest?
     
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    He was killed by resisting arrest while having enough drugs in his system to kill just about anyone. If he simply sat in the police car, he would NOT have died, unless the drugs killed him later. If he wasn't using counterfeit bills, he'd probably be alive, or dead from a drug OD. There is NO medical evidence he died from asphyxiation or damage to his neck. As irresponsible as it was to kneel on someone for that long, there isn't a shred of science that proves that specific act killed him independent of all other factors. The stress of the encounter combined with all the drugs did it. I'll trust science.

    And there is very little reason to resist arrest. Even if the arrest is wrong, you peacefully succumb, you're brought to the station and you call a lawyer. People who resist arrest put their lives at risk, because cops aren't responsible for YOUR actions. A gun can be snatched quickly. A weapon can be hidden. A punch thrown knocks you out cold if it lands correctly. We've seen it too many times.
     
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    Your 12-page manifesto of tyrannical powers does not have a legal foundation, and is thus unconstitutional; a direct assault on our constitutional freedoms and liberties.

    Namely,

    1) Freedom of assembly. (sitting on an outdoor bleacher with friends and family)
    2) Freedom from unreasonable searches and seizure. (what you must wear or can't wear)
    3) Freedom from cruel and unusual punishments. (tasing)

    All three of those constitutional freedoms were violated by the tyrants you subscribe to.
     
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    Where is it written that a cadre of unelected micro-managing bureaucrats has the right to deny us our constitutional freedoms?
     
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    The constitution guarantees the right to attend HS football games?
     
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    I do not have a constitutional right to enter a public school and freely roam around and do what ever I want in violation of rules and regulations of that school PERIOD. It is not YOUR assembly it is the SCHOOL'S assembly and you must comply with THEIR rules and regulations.

    It was not unreasonable she was not being seized she was being asked to leave to premises for violating the state and school regulations, she was arrested because she resisted the lawful orders.

    Nothing cruel, TASERS are accepted means to enforce compliance with law enforcement.

    And BTW I have a 5:00 kickoff for one of my grandkids games today and will be as required wearing my mask and if I take it off will fully expect the security there to tell me to put it on and if I refuse I will full expect them to tell me to vacate the premises and if I refuse I will fully expect them to use an appropriate force and if a resist to use even more force as I am placed under arrest.
     
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    More people are defending disturbing the peace and assault by the state against an innocent woman. And all that does is prove the old adage "Liberty dies to thunderous applause". We have the government we deserve for all the police state apologists amongst us.
     
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    Can you outline the Ohio legislative law that made not wearing a mask outdoors a crime? I suspect not.

    According to your logic, both Trump and Biden should have been tased, handcuffed, and arrested for not obeying the debate rules. Because as you tyrants like to say, "the rules are the rules."
     
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