Women In Combat Roles Face These “Disproportionate Medical Risks”

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  1. Wehrwolfen

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    By Jazz Shaw

    ‎7‎/‎27‎/‎2017‎

    Are recruiters, particularly in the Army and Marines, lying to (or at least misleading) young women who they try to recruit into military service? That’s a question which is asked and answered in the LA Times this week by two people who should know. Julie Pulley is a former West Point graduate Army captain and Afghanistan veteran. Rear Adm. Hugh P. Scott was a Navy medical officer and is an expert in medical physical standards. They discuss the current push to drive up the number of women going into combat roles and the unique stresses which the demands of those duties put on the bodies of women. The difference between the genders in this scenario is significant and worrisome.
    The first example is based on nothing more than the fact that men produce a lot of testosterone, leading to larger hearts and more muscle mass.
    [M]ales have 40% greater aerobic capacity, and higher endurance compared with females. Women’s smaller hearts require more blood to be pumped each minute at a given level of exertion because they have less hemoglobin in their blood to carry oxygen.
    These differences will put women at a distinct disadvantage in newly opened infantry jobs, where they will be expected to carry 100-pound packs routinely, or in armor jobs, where they will have to load 35-pound rounds again and again. ​
    If you don’t like the rather basic argument of “guys are just stronger” you might want to consider that the different body designs between the genders. These leave women open to more injuries and long term health problems if they have to endure that much physical stress over long periods of time.
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    There are more risks, such as bone marrow loss among women who take common hormone treatments to avoid menstruation while deployed. All of the wear and tear which does a number on the men to begin with is multiplied in women over long periods of time. The reason? I know that the SJW crowd absolutely despises hearing this, but as these expert author reaffirm for us yet again… “men and women are not the same.” Those difference are wonderful in so many ways and are woven into the fabric of human society around the globe, but they also put women at a severe disadvantage in certain high stress, physically demanding activities over the long run.

    Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/26/women-combat-roles-facing-disproportionate-medical-risks/

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    This is not about women serving in the military, it's about women in combat roles, not in other service areas. Once again, Progressive Socialists show they don't care about what happens to people, as long as their agenda is met.
    The basic theory is that the breaking point, or point of injury would most likely occur when the physical stress on the body is greatest, and that would generally be under combat conditions. Assume you are a 185-lb. soldier, and you are injured in combat. Do you really think a 110-lb. woman is capable of hauling you, your 100-lb. pack and her 100-lb. pack out of the line of fire to safety and if she abandons the packs to save you, what will she defend the both of you with until help comes?
    In each case the military standards have already been lowered so women can pass the tests. All that is needed now is to make war less stressful, I'm sure the enemy will go along with that, they're totally into social engineering. That's the only way to solve this problem. There's no GI Jane to pass BUD's training.
     
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    I have a nephew in the service. He tells me that recruits can now refuse to obey an order from a drill instructor if they think it is not fair. Enlisted persons can file complaints against their commanding officer when being disciplined. No matter how unfounded, the complaint goes on the officer's record and could affect their career.

    Discipline and readiness are giving way to political correctness.

    Hopefully, Trump and Mad Dog Maddis will put a stop to this slide.
     
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    LOL, we used to sit around in Basic Training and tell each other the lies the recruiter told us. They lie to everyone. Don't feel special.
     
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    Lies at enlistment time?

    I knew an old guy who was a veteran of WWI. He and a friend were 15 years old in 1917 when America went to war. They tried to lie about their ages in order to enlist.

    The recruiter doubted they were eighteen, but said that if they could buy him a bottle of whiskey then they must be telling the truth.

    The two of them went to the nearest saloon and got a sympathetic bartender to sell each of them a bottle and they joined up. The old guy ended up in France, but that is another story.
     
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    I don't feel special. I did my time, 5 plus years in the military.
     
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    More directed towards the girls than anyone else, should have made myself clear.

    Respect.
     
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    Interesting, if true.

    "An IRA fighter in West Belfast during the 1970’s. Women were an active part of both Republican and Loyalist groups during the Northern Ireland conflict commonly known as ’The Troubles’. She is armed with a US-obtained ArmaLite AR-18 rifle, which were often used by the IRA and held important symbolic status. "

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    I don't support having women in standard infantry units for multiple reasons. One, things can get pretty bleak out there and different men react in different ways. But they can fight there's no doubt about that, and I know women who routinely carried very heavy packs while hiking, and mountain climbing.
     
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    The photos of women bearing arms look like great propaganda. How long did they live after posing?
     
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    In some companies/battalions that is true. They are called "Low speed low stress" units. They also get "stress cards". Not many companies do this though. It's an experiment.
     
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    Mad Dog and Tom.jpg Mad Dog and Tom.jpg

    Here is a photo of my nephew and General Maddis taken this past July 4th. The women in the above photos would be about his age now--if they were alive.
     

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    Doesn't anybody like a photo of a great American?
     
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    ...and no men ever died in combat and no men ever suffered from physical wounds and/or stress from combat.....that's good to know....:roll:



    So good to know the Nannyists want to "protect" women....
     
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    So interesting to see a bunch of cowards who never served commenting on those who volunteered. If an American wants to serve, your misogyny takes a back seat to their patriotism.
     
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    Of course they opted for pullups. They only have to do 7 when men have to do 23. Yay equality!
     

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