Women. Religion’s longest running victims.

Women. Religion’s longest running victims.

Here we are in civilized and enlightened societies and cultures in high tech times and we are not smart enough to recognize that the world will continue in strife as long as we men do not give women full equality as a minimum to what men should do towards the care of families.

I hope you are astute enough to see this. If you do nothing then you know not what duty to your family should be. The women in your family deserve to be first class citizens.

Men are maintaining God’s curse against women. He will rule over you.

Men. Christians, Catholics and Muslims. Free your women. It’s time. Man up.

Please.

Regards
DL

 

If only. It seems the only way to achieve equality as a woman is to find a man who is not religious and to not follow religion yourself as a woman.

Although some women like being dominated too if you get my meaning.

 

You may be surprised to hear that quite often religion helped liberating women. Here's but one example:

"At the time of Muhammad's birth, women in 7th century Arabia had few if any rights. Even the right of life could be in question, since it was not uncommon for small girls to be buried alive during times of scarcity. In the Qur'an, it is said that on Judgment Day "buried girls" will rise out of their graves and ask for what crime they were killed. Part of Muhammad's legacy was to end infanticide and establish explicit rights for women.

Islam teaches that men and women are equal before God. It grants women divinely sanctioned inheritance, property, social and marriage rights, including the right to reject the terms of a proposal and to initiate divorce. The American middle-class trend to include a prenuptial agreement in the marriage contract is completely acceptable in Islamic law. In Islam's early period, women were professionals and property owners, as many are today. Although in some countries today the right of women to initiate divorce is more difficult than intended, this is a function of patriarchal legislation and not an expression of Islamic values. Muhammad himself frequently counseled Muslim men to treat their wives and daughters well. "You have rights over your women," he is reported to have said, "and your women have rights over you." (...)"
http://www.pbs.org/muhammad/ma_women.shtml

 

Women are always the first converts to new religions. They help to create and maintain the systems that oppress them. It's not up to men to free them. It's up to women to stop enslaving themselves and maintaining the systems that oppress them.

You can't free people if they want to be oppressed.

 

So that's what the what the Koran says. Now how many Muslims actually practice what their Koran preaches? They say it's the religion of peace but I have a hard time believing that when they still imprison and murder women for not wearing head scarves, when they deny women the right to education and when they treat little girls as chatel and marry them off the moment they start their periods.

 

That’s what historians say.

Yes, wouldn’t it be nice if everybody behaved according to their religion’s best thoughts? We’d have world piece in an instant. Alas, most people tend to be more influenced by their culture and earthly interests than by their religion. Which explains why there is such a thing as an American right wing evangelical with 10 machineguns at home, just as it explains why there is such a thing as the kind of Muslim you just described.

 

Not ALL religions. There are religions out there that are very female friendly (Wiccan pops into mind). Of course religion is just a reflection of the culture around it.

 

I heard that Hitler actually helped a disabled Jew across the street once, so, uh, I guess we can forget that whole nasty "Hitler hated Jews" nonsense, eh! See, if something is 1% good, and 99% bad, then of course we, uh, er, have to completely disregard the 99% and only talk about the 1%, uh, right?

Jesus never spoke up for women's rights, because of course he doesn't care for women much. Moses approved of taking women as sex slaves: "you may keep them for yourselves." (http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm). Mohammad said that women are deficient in intelligence (http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Women_are_Deficient_in_Intelligence)

Junobet, are your mother and female relatives deficient in intelligence, or was Mohammad wrong. Which is it?

 

The barbarity of Mohammad knows no bounds, as evidence by this AP headline the other day: "Women stoned to death in Syria for adultery” [as per the Islamic texts, it should have added.] http://news.yahoo.com/women-stoned-death-syria-adultery-174549066.html

Clearly religion has worn out its welcome.

 

Correct, modern Secular Humanism (for one) is a belief system that is far more compassionate towards women than Jesus'/Moses'/Mohammad's belief systems.
If Mother Teresa converted to Buddhism 30 days before her death, then Jesus (that sick SOB) would, according to the Bible that is, gladly see that she was tortured worse than Saddam ever tortured his worst enemies, and for much much MUCH longer! That's sick. Jesus said something akin to: "No one can come to the father except through me....not through Buddha, (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es!" (http://biblehub.com/john/14-6.htm) Not sure why anyone would worship a guy who makes Saddam, relatively speaking, look like a shining beacon of compassion....

 

Fine, fine, fine...

But the Bible is concerned with the Child Abuse, the rise in violent crime, Welfare expenses, and anti-military attitudes that endanger the whole nation once they get a say in things.

What about the Child Abuse which today effects half the kids born illegitimately now?

 

Humanism has failed to indoctrinate the masses, but it really is Christianity itself, anyway.

The first president of the Humanist society was Abraham Maslow, the Psychologist who studied sane people and listed the attributes he observed in them as the 15 Characteristics of an Actualized Person.

St Paul had already stated the same 15 things for us, anyway:


Abraham Maslow's capitalized 15 Characteristics of a Sane Person are compared here with 1Co13:4-9;13)

1Cor. 13:4 (The altruistic attitude), charity, suffereth long (IN MEDITATIONS), and is kind (IN ITS ACCEPTANCE OF SELF AND OTHERS); charity, (Altruism), envieth not (BY RESISTING SUCH ENCULTURATION); charity, (the altruistic attitude), vaunteth not itself (BUT IS COMPASSIONATE), is not puffed up (BUT IS NATURAL, SPONTANEOUS AND SIMPLE),

1Cor. 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly (BUT IS CREATIVE), seeketh not her own (IN A MORE EFFICIENT VIEW OF REALITY), is not easily provoked (IT HAS A BIG BROTHER ATTITUDE), thinketh not evil (BUT DISCRIMINATES BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL);

1Cor. 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity (BUT IS UNHOSTILE AND OPEN-MINDED IN HUMOR), but rejoiceth in the truth (THAT IS PROBLEM CENTERED);

1Cor. 13:7 Beareth all things (IN A DEMOCRATIC RESPONSE), believeth all things (AS REGARDS THE PEAK MYSTICAL EXPERIENCE), hopeth all things (THROUGH PERSONAL AUTONOMY), endureth all things (IN A CONTINUED FRESHNESS OF APPRECIATION).

1Cor. 13:8 Charity, (by which is meant Altruism), never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, (human predictions), they shall fail; whether there be tongues (as evidence of our inner subconscious psyche), they shall cease (as we come to realize that the source is pyschological); whether there be knowledge (as it may be understood at this time, the 1st century AD), it shall vanish away (in the new paradigms to come).

1Cor. 13:13 And now abideth faith (BY SELF ESTEEM, NOT SELFISHNESS), hope (THROUGH AUTONOMY OF FREE WILL CHOICE), charity (IN ALTRUISM), these three; but the greatest of these is charity, (ALTRUISM).

 

You mean the very Jesus who the New Testament tells us taught women in a society which advised against giving women an education? And who spoke out against the then habit of just divorcing your wife at a whim thus leaving her socially and economically destitute? The Jesus whose resurrection was witnessed by women and who – in the patriarchal society in 1th century CE - had women among his first apostles?

And you mean the very Moses who according to Numbers 27:1-11 – contrary to the then custom - granted the daughters of Zelophehad (and all other women) the right to inherit their fathers estate? And whose sister Miriam became one of the most revered prophets in Judaism?

And I suppose you mean the very Mohammed whose wife Aisha Sunnis believe to have been “scholarly and inquisitive. She contributed to the spread of Muhammad's message and served the Muslim community for 44 years after his death.[10] She is also known for narrating 2210 hadiths,[11] not just on matters related to the Prophet's private life, but also on topics such inheritance, pilgrimage, and eschatology.[12] Her intellect and knowledge in various subjects, including poetry and medicine, were highly praised by early luminaries such as al-Zuhri and her student Urwa ibn al-Zubayr”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha

 

A couple of absolute facts. All Religions are man made. All religions command that women be subservient to men. Not a one of them gives a woman equal status. They either command or condone slavery too. Maybe that's why our forebears owned slaves and ruled women. How else could Joseph Smith and Brigham Young have owned and commanded nearly a hundred wives?

Let's see here...19th amendment to the U S constitution (1920)
"The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation."

 

Some feminists beg to differ with that ‘absolute fact’: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriarchal_religion

Is that how my Church got to be led by a female bishop?

So Quaker abolitionists, William Wilberforce and the Rev. Martin Luther King condoned slavery? Seriously?

What a wonderful success for the “Woman's Christian Temperance Union” and their fight for woman's suffrage.

 

It's like everything else.....burning or hanging witches, hell fire and damnation, required baptism for infant children, persecution of homosexuals, women required to be submissive, etc. When those beliefs became unpopular and donations began to falter....guess what? The church changed.....the scripture is still there.

 

As a true Alpha Male....I am HARDWIRED to protect people...especially WOMEN.

I am not home now....I have a networked setup and I am in a place...believe me...none of you would want to be.

My current JOB....not usual....my Team and I are making certain that certain SPECIAL DELIVERIES are sent on time and make it to the receivers....and it is worse here than even I thought it would be.

Decapitated bodies everywhere....and WOMEN....well over here they are at a value just above DIRT....and just below a good Goat.

It sickens me.

And my Team and I are doing everything we can but we are just a Team...not a Division.

As far as Feminists....they somewhere along the way forgot what a Feminist was....as I AM A FEMINIST...as I believe in equal pay and respect but RESPECT MUST BE EARNED....if you can't do the job then don't pretend you can!!!

But this SHE WOMAN MAN HATER'S CLUB has got to stop.

And hey...I GET IT!! There are some men out there who are MORONS....just don't forget Ladies there are also MEN like myself and my Team...OK?

AboveAlpha

 

Deut

23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

 

I am not singling out you per say but do me a favor....the Bible especially the New Testament was CREATED...by the Roman Imperial Biblical Canon....and has about as much verasity as a 1950's Report of the safety of using DDT.

Old Testament was CREATED from the Tanakh....then later called the Torah....and it has so many mistranslations and errors it is beyonf belief.

Save Biblical Quotes for Halloween.

AboveAlpha

 

except that paul had a hand in writing the NT. And still, some of the stuff from the OT is confirmed in the NT, such as the Ten commandments and the story of Jesus, the sin of homosexuality, so on and so forth.

But he did argue that most of the laws in deut did not apply to gentiles in the book of Acts.

 

No....the NT took Hundreds of years to write and Revelation was refused entery 7 times as it was seen as silly and seen as fantasy.

There does not exist one single existing original Gospel...as even the fragments we have are fragments of copies of copes of copies.

AboveAlpha

 

One example of the OT which the Roman Imperial Biblical Canon used both the Tanakh and Torah to write....mistranslated the Exodus story as Moses NEVER parted the Red Sea.

Moses CROSSED the REED SEA or Yam Suph.....A SHALLOW reed or seaweed filled location between the Med and Red Sea's.

The Tanakh which used the stone tablets the Hebrews carved the history into as they left Egypt....stated Moses and the Hebrews CROSSED NOT PARTED the REED SEA..

AboveAlpha

 

What stone tablets?

 

I believe you may have this a bit backward....Often, culture is heavily influenced by the religion within it, to the detriment of those who disagree with it.

Even here in the U.S., Christianity attempts to influence the cultural and individual freedom of the population. Fortunately, here we have systems in place to prevent religion from damaging society at large, but it still tries regularly.

 

Do you think this is a mistranslation? The total lack of civility lies here in their writings. They were not much more than ignorant anmals.

Old Testament Death Penalty Sins


•Murder - Gen. 9:6; Ex. 21:12-14,20,23; Lev. 24:17,21; Num. 35:16-34; Deut. 19.
•Failing to circumcise - Gen. 17:14; Ex. 4:24,25.
•Eating leavened bread during feast of unleavened bread - Ex.
•2:15,19.
•Smiting Parents- Ex. 21:15.
•Kidnapping - Ex. 21:16; Deut. 24:7.
•Cursing Parents - Ex. 21:17; Lev. 20:9.
•Negligence with animals that kill - Ex. 21:28-32.
•Witchcraft - Ex. 22:18.
•Bestiality - Ex. 22:19; Lev. 18:23-29; 20:15,16.
•Idolatry - Ex. 22:20.
•Making holy anointing oil - Ex. 30:33.
•Putting holy anointing oil on strangers - Ex. 30:33.
•Making the holy perfume - Ex. 30:38.
•Defiling the Sabbath - Ex. 31:14.
•Working on the Sabbath - Ex. 35:2.
•Eating the flesh of the peace offerings in
•uncleanness - Lev. 7:20,21.
•Eating the fat of sacrifices - Lev. 7:25.
•Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the tabernacle - Lev. 17:1-9.
•Eating blood - Lev. 17:10-14.
•Incest - Lev. 18:6-29; 20:11-22.
•Eating sacrifices at the wrong time - Lev. 19:5-8.
•Consecration of children to idols - Lev. 20:1-5.
•Spiritualism - Lev. 20:6,27.
•Adultery - Lev. 20:10; Deut. 22:22-30.
•Sodomy/Homosexuality - Lev. 20:13.
•Relationship with a menstruous woman - Lev. 20:18.
•Whoredom - Lev. 21:9; Deut. 22:21,22.
•Sacrilege - Lev. 22:3.
•Refusing to fast on day of atonement - Lev. 23:29.
•Working on atonement - Lev. 23:30.
•Blasphemy - Lev. 24:11-16.
•Failure to keep the Passover - Num. 9:13.
•Presumptuous - Num. 15:30,31.
•Gathering firewood on the Sabbath - Num. 15:32,36.
•Failure to purify self before worship - Num. 19:13,20.
•False prophecy - Deut. 13:1-18; 18:20.
•Leading men away from God - Deut. 13:6-18.
•Stubbornness and rebelliousness - Deut. 21:18-23.
•Gluttony - Deut. 21:20-23.
•Drunkenness - Deut. 21:20-23.
•Backbiting - Deut. 17:2-7.
•False dreams and visions - Deut. 13:1-18.