Women's History Month...What exactly are we celebrating?

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  1. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    So you think knowing who Thomas Edison is equates to being the "greatest human ever"? Wow, the system has really failed you.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    It is quite silly to celebrate history based on someones gender or skin color. I have pointed that out very well.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Apparently not.
     
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    Well, we agree on that. History is not owned by anyone based on their gender, race, or anything so trivial. History belongs to all of us and all the accomplishments and failures belong to us all.
     
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    Not if you disassociate it from propaganda. American history includes all the horrible things done by America and all the defeats America has suffered. Celebrating its victims or those who defeated it. Then American history is a subtopic of history, like Roman history, and not a celebration at all.
     
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    This is generally not true, and rather bigoted. The vast majority of white men are not racist sexists clinging to dominance over minorities or women.

    Demonizing an entire race or gender like that is no more excusable than the very sexism and racism you attribute to them.

    And there is a tendency for many people to grow into labels you put on them. Tell a black boy over and over that black boys are thugs, and there is a good chance he will become a thug. Tell a white boy over and over that white boys are racist, and guess what could happen from that?

    It is far more effective to tell the two boys that racism is stupid, show them how much they have in common, and let them grow up as brothers instead of dividing them.

    ... by some. Most do consider blacks to be equal. And those who don't are encouraged by the constant divisions by race by self declared "anti-racists". Calls for inclusion and calls for unity and calls that race does not matter are progress. Constant demands for division by race are the opposite. Same applies to gender.

    It would be even nicer to be regarded as people, regardless of nation of citizenship. Citizenship should only matter when it is directly relevant. Whenever I see news reports about how many Americans were killed in some conflict, completely ignoring dead of other nations (ie, Afghan or Iraqi civilians) I am disgusted.

    It has. And we need to be mindful of tribalism and on guard against it where it does more harm than good.
     
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    Today, it is much less of sexism and racism. But my post said, it was 150 yrs of white male dominance in the USA. That is a fact. And that was my statement.
    And then I went on to say, the white males in general, are not giving up that dominance easily. And they aren't. White males still dominate the CEO jobs. The congress of the USA and certainly the presidency of the USA.

    Change like racism and sexism takes generations, IMO, to weed down in society. For those that are older are not so easy to change their view points.
    IMO, it's at least 3 generations to make any meaningful change to deep seeded beliefs and societal changes.
    For laws may change, but people's mindset doesn't change easily. For some not at all.


    Sure it would be nice to regard people just as people without all the labels. I think that is far far far in the future.
     
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    But I don't think there is a problem with a label. You can be proud you're Irish or Jamaican. The problem is some people don't see them as individuals but only as the "label". These people have limited thinking and I am afraid we will never be free of "small minds" for they are the bottom range on the spectrum of human psychology.
     
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    The refugees seeking haven in America were poor and disease-ridden. They threatened to take jobs away from Americans and strain welfare budgets. They practiced an alien religion and pledged allegiance to a foreign leader. They were bringing with them crime. They were accused of being rapists. And, worst of all, these undesirables were Irish.
    https://www.history.com/news/when-america-despised-the-irish-the-19th-centurys-refugee-crisis

    Irish could be proud, but the folks in USA already were not proud to have Irish migrating to USA.
     
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    Yeah, Irish and Italians were called white kniggers.
     
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    It seems the USA has evolved exactly ZERO.
    The ethnics of who it hates just changes.

    But for blacks, it's been 250 yrs and counting.
     
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    We could celebrate that only 10% of all patents are held by women. Or that almost none of them die in dangerous jobs. Or that they always get custody of children, never go to jail for the same crimes as men,
    can’t change a tire, never go into STEM fields. 90% of black women are overweight. Almost no female inventors, require the government to help them get paid when they don’t work, bitch about air conditioning, don’t build anything. Let the state raise their kids, can’t cook, won’t clean, can’t get drafted,

    I would say everyday celebrates people who do none of the work of modern society and reap all of the rewards
     
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    We are paying lip service to fragile people that need acknowledgement for being special.
     
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