Wonder what the socialist democrats are really up to? Hang on... it's scary.

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  1. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I get it,..... paying progressive rates doesn't mean you're getting subsidized by everyone that pays higher rates than you.
     
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    It could be that there are more factors to the equation than just revenue and expenditure.
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Let's bring your rates up to the top rate.
    Problem solved
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    now they worry about deficits
     
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    Let you forfeit your "entitlement" benefits, Problem solved.
     
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    Now deficits don't matter anymore.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    oh they do, Im just wondering what happened to all the deficits are good posts we saw from the left under obama? as we told you, until you pay off obamas staggering debt, no lefty has any business opening their traps about debt or deficit.
     
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    Of course, I expected that answer.

    If you must know: Deficits are never good, but they sometimes are an unfortunate necessity in times of economic recession, when government spending has to compensate for private sector spending, to prevent the economy from going into a depression.

    On the other hand, government deficits in times when the economy is already in high gear only throw fuel on the raging fire, making it burn out more quickly. When the next recession comes, and it will, government has lost its ammunition to fight it, because the money was squandered in good times. This makes large deficits caused by tax cuts during good economic times the pinnacle of irresponsibility.

    What's so hard to understand about it?
     
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    And you as well, so we can be equal, or do you just intend on freeloading on the backs of your fellow citizens?
     
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    Stop accusing me (and others) of freeloading. I have never taken a single dime of assistance from the government. In contrast, when I came to the US as a legal immigrant, I paid payroll taxes from the beginning, while not being eligible for benefits for the first 10 years. If I had left again before the 10 years were over, I would have subsidized your system, as other legal immigrants do.
     
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    W T F? So contraction of capital should be illegal? Conversely, should IPO's be banned as well? What is wrong with you people? :roflol:
     
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    I doubt you will find sane people are "scared of Warren". If you apply that logic to the number of times she is brought up on a thread, you must really question the sanity of the usual suspects hourly postings about Trump right here in PF and the leftie media.
     
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    oh I understand them perfectly...Im asking why deficits were good under obama...thats what was posted here.
     
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    Did you not read my post? I said that deficits weren't good under Obama, they were a necessary evil.
     
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    did you not read mine? when obama was pres thats all we heard from the left. What happened?
     
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    What do I care about the left? I am not the left. That may be hard for someone to understand who can only think black and white.
     
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    I'm hearing a possible growth rate of 5%. If these tax cuts stimulate the economy then higher tax receipts could allow the cuts to pay for themselves.
     
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    Except that hasn't happened when both Reagan and GWB tried it. Why would this time be different?

    I'll tell you what will happen. This is a short-time economic boom caused by consumers and government going into debt. Once the debt overhang becomes too large, the next deep recession will follow, at which point government revenue will fall through the floor and deficits will explode. Of course, when that happens, your side will blame it on someone else, just like in 2008.
     
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    I thought I heard recently that at least when Reagan did it, tax receipts did go up?
     
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    Yet, Reagan tripled the public debt.
     
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    But was that because spending increased so much and not so much related to tax cuts?
     
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    Then, why didn't he cut spending first, and then cut taxes? Actually, why didn't GWB and Trump do that either?
     
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    Do Republicans ever cut spending like they claim they want to do?
     
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    why is that?

    some on the left believe,

    tax cut economics is really just Income Redistribution that benefits the wealthiest, the most.

    The rich get richer and the poor get poorer, and deeper in debt:
    http://www.usdebtclock.org/
     
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    The right wing is fake news.

    The left needs to take command of our economy and solve our social issues.
     

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