Wonder what the socialist democrats are really up to? Hang on... it's scary.

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  1. danielpalos

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    No; all Talk and no Action is all they know;

    or,

    blaming the Poor.
     
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    It isn't free if we are going deeper in Debt.
    http://www.usdebtclock.org/
     
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    we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and Industrial Automation to help with social costs.
     
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    You might as well throw in replicators. ;-)
     
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    lol. The right wing needs them, to programatically come up with arguments instead of excuses.
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you wanted a Welfare/Entitlement State. debt is what you get with a Welfare/Entitlement State.
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is not necessarily that they do not know as much as it is, deep in the bowels of their thinking, they do not care about economics or freedom if either get in their way.
     
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    mandating the doubling of the wage floor will result in increased unemployment. it's not even debatable.

    to go along with increased unemployment, it will also increase the costs of goods and services. double whammy.

    it will also create serious animosity in the workplace....vis, how is the Wendy's manager who earns $15 per hour after 5 years of loyal service going to feel about a 17 year old high school drop out earning the same amount they earn on day-one? Do you think they might demand a big raise?

    do you think the responsible person who spends money and time attending trade school in hopes of earning a $15/hour starting wage is going to appreciate earning the same amount as our pimple-faced hamburger flipper? wouldn't they also demand a substantial raise? (a main reason why the costs of goods and services would substantially increase...along with unemployment...which means more people on the dole (<--- good!..in leftist circles)
     
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    Capitalism with a dash of socialism works. There needs to be safety nets like Medicaid and food stamps and a minimum wage, unions, and other regulations. However, for the most part a free market works better than the government.

    The one industry that needs more government oversight is healthcare. It is really a mess and I'm not sure what the answer is. Some say Obamacare was intended to be so complicated that it would lead to Universal Healthcare. Wealthy people are already subsidizing insurance for poor people already anyways. Why not cover everyone (much less bureaucracy)and get rid of insurance companies that are making a killing?
     
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    lol. Only in Right Wing Tax Cut Economics Fantasy.
     
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    Only in Right Wing, fake news.

    we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and Industrial Automation to help with social costs.
     
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    tell me how much Progressive Utopia should cost every year. Federal, State and local governments already confiscate, spend, exhibit control over roughly 43% of America's annual GDP. how much more do leftists want? 50%? 60%? 75%? (I never get an answer...because the answer is 100%)
     
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    Only lousy Capitalists are so lousy at economics, they lose money on public policies, and have to pay Income Tax as capital punishment, for being capitally, immoral.
     
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    see. they'll never answer. HOW MUCH, Daniel?
     
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    I'm sure this just all got muddled in the "nuance" of her demand that as a part of the legislation that ALL corps with more than 1B in revenue would be run by government. I know, this isn't what you thought you were told, but, it is, none the less, the truth about what ms Warren is actually advocating here. There have been enough reporting here to know this. WSJ, Bloomberg, etc have all wondered aloud just how ms Warren can justify this wholesale nationalization of US industry and corporations.

    You see "social justice'. The rest of us see Venezuela. Or China. Or the old Soviet of yester year. What ms Warren is selling is thinly disguised national socialism. I'll tell you, fauxcahontis just doesn't look good in brown.... or black.
     
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    every harebrained socioeconomic scheme leftists propose is designed to destroy capitalism. ALL roads lead back to that.
     
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    Think it's a coincidence that Obama visited South Africa to share ideas about confiscation --- South Africa offering the benefit of their experience in land confiscation --- while Obama offered the benefit of his extensive research into how to separate workers from the money they earn.
     
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    "If you've got a business, you didn't build that," said Barack Hussein Obama in 2012.

    Steve
     
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    we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and Industrial Automation to help with social costs.

    even the dollar menu won't double.
     
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    in other words, you got Nothing.

    Solving simple poverty promotes the general welfare.
     
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    lol...I find the latest leftist meme..."Im not a leftist" absolutely scrumptious.
    none of you supported clinton, none of you are on the left anymore...just a lot of people on the right now and half of them just support leftist ideology I suppose.
     
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    You should be in favor of Trump's immigration and fair trade policies. That's what will increase wages and create more jobs.

    There's 95 million citizens no longer counted as employed or unemployed. And there's 27 million legal and illegal immigrants in our workforce. That's 17 percent of the ENTIRE WORKFORCE.

    Steve
     
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    Trump & Company mantra If you're rich, you deserve it, if you're poor you deserve it. It doesn't account for guys like Manafort and Trump running around lose. Or pimps and drug lords. Or rich kids that inherited everything. Those folks don't belong in the same category as Warren Buffet or Bill Gates.

    Then there are poor folks who game the system, haven't held a job for generations, and don't intend to work. They're not in the same category as soldiers disabled in combat, disabled and infirm, the aged, and a host of other reasons.

    But to our Trumpies, its all the same - see my first sentence. If you don't measure up - die and reduce the excess population.
     
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    "...voting for free money for themselves through unpaid-for tax cuts..."

    Jesus Christ... we are doomed with this kind of logic running amok.
     
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    Yeah. What was the original intent of the corporate charter? It’s not a question the status quo wants to delve into so we get these purposely distracting wild leaps of fancy.

    It reminds me of the reaction to the Pope’s address on character a few years back. This same group of pundits interpreted it to be about economics and called him a socialist.

    They’re an absurdly comical cast of characters.
     

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