Worst U.S. President of Last 50 Years

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Worst U.S. President of the Last 50 Years

  1. Nixon

    3 vote(s)
    2.4%
  2. Ford

    2 vote(s)
    1.6%
  3. Carter

    35 vote(s)
    28.2%
  4. Reagan

    3 vote(s)
    2.4%
  5. GHW Bush

    6 vote(s)
    4.8%
  6. Clinton

    9 vote(s)
    7.3%
  7. GW Bush

    13 vote(s)
    10.5%
  8. Trump

    53 vote(s)
    42.7%
  1. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    Of course you do.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no actually they are documenting contemporary history while comparing it to past performances. By certain metrics, in two years your fearless leader has demolished the records - like number of indictments of campaign and administration members, most vacancies of confirmation appointments, most strike outs with confirmation candidates, most lies, most money made by cutting taxes for the rich, most money made while in office, and on and on and on.
     
  3. Reasonablerob

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    Because they're listening to the naysaying nabobs of liberal negativism?
     
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    All of which is meaningless, plenty of presidents have had corrupt campaigns and members of their administration dismissed and charged. He has the most vacancies because he's not a professional politician and the rest don't matter a damn.

    I'll ask again, tell me what exactly has been so bad in DT's term of office.
     
  5. Jonsa

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    Well for starters how about letting Putin get away with bending America over and ramming one up her arse, because by admitting it had an effect it casts shade on the legitimacy of his presidency. And he's followed that up with letting Putin get away with a russian military operation in Venezuela in direct opposition to HIS policy.

    Does dereliction of duty as commander in chief fit your definition of "so bad"?
     
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    But it had negligible effect and it's nothing China didn't do for Bill Clinton? He hasn't let Putin away with anything and is still piling the pressure on for regime change in Venezuela but he's not going to start WW3 over it.
     
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    Russian involvement in the elections was so miniscule it meant nothing in the end.

    And get un involved in yet another war we will lose, yea right.

    Hasn't happened, probably never will.
     
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    I see you didn't read the mueller report.



    How dismissive of the historic model of American National Security.



    as the tanks roll up behind you.
     
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    I read the entire report, do you have any idea of the money that went into the last election and how the amount Russia put into it to "sway it" is literally a drop of water in the ocean when compared?

    And we spend untold billions and thousands of lives to fight a war we will just walk away from.

    And where is that going to happen?[/QUOTE]
     
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    Oh so what was all that activity by name members of two different GRU units? About the detailed efforts of the IRC? The identified trolls, the tens of thousands of bots and the hundreds of cyborgs. The retweets by CAMPAIGN members of divisive russian bullshit. You think they didn't conduct a highly sophisticated social media campaign targetted from detailed polling/demographic data?

    But feel free to dismiss it. That social media stuff doesn't have any influence anyway, amirite?

    War is not necessary. But then again, trump seems equally inept in wielding the other two levers of american power projection so I can see how his mob might think it's the best way to "win the election".


    you should be able to hear the sound by now, but its obvious how tone deaf trumpettes have become.
     
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    With that comment it is clear your mind is made up, orange man bad, as such there is no sense in continuing this discussion.
     
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    Obama is without doubt, the worst President.....ever!
     
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    And that seems to be the end result of this poll, even though he was left out of the questions, the write in votes have totally proven that to be true.
     
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    Yes I have made a definitive determination of trump thru his very own words and actions. I get you can't let the evidence staring you in the face to even consider that the promise of making america great has resulted in the trashing the dignity and ethics of the office of the President and Commander in Chief. That its okay to have a liar, a cheat, a crook, a bigot, and a churlish bully as president. Meanwhile he kisses the arse of the leader of the nation whose cyberattack on america helped elect the clown.


    Yep no sense in continuing the discussion if you are going to try to defend what is clearly indefensible.
     
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    By what metrics? Curliness of his hair?
     
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    Which he has never done, unlike Obama who bowed and kissed the rings of those who finance terrorism.
     
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    Seriously? that's all ya got by way of defense? stupid bumpersticker whataboutism?
     
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    We did read the Mueller report, did you?
     
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    Probably read the MSNBC summary.
     
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    Absolutely.

    Which makes it imperative that Trump be defeated (by any legal means necessary) in 2020.

    It is important that the Dignity of the Office be restored.:flagus:
     
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    How he's any different from previous presidents? Liar, cheat, crook describes Bill Clinton perfectly, a bigot and churlish bully describes LBJ?
     
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    His bigly wins in the arrogance, ignorance, egocentric, cheat and liar categories, does make him a superstar amongst the most cretinous of presidents.
     
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    Spiro Agnew just turned over in his grave
     
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    Not just those stylistic problems. He's also about he most dangerous to our institutions I've yet seen or even heard of. He is a flat out authoritarian, the most extreme I've ever heard of in America.

    He is the great nightmare of most of us who have studied the Hispanic nations of the Western Hemisphere. He is a caudillo, a "man on horseback" and that is a spectre that stalks the history of just about every Latin American nation there is. Most of us thought our British background protected us from the phenomena, but it seems that may have been just a reflection.

    I just hope that he will destroy nothing more than the Republicans that spawned him, and that no one who ever dares say ".... only I can save you" (the major watchwords of every dictator who ever lived) will ever be elected to our Highest Office ever again.
     
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    Carter. While it might well have been impossible for the Soviets to win the Cold War, no president tried to give it away to them as much as Carter.
     
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