Writer: Trump Sexually Assaulted Me at Bergdorf Goodman

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    The nutter who thinks rape is sexy or the president.

    I think it's more of a fantasy for this writer.
     
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    Oh there’s that right wing extremism again. What is this no conspiracy # 4263?To say that she did it for the money should be a disgrace but then again Trumpers don’t know much better. She is a very comfortable woman and hardly needs the money. But what happens to Trumpers they project how they think on to others and they can’t comprehend that some people have courage and stand up to him morality. But you were wrong that she hurt women who have been sexually assaulted, in fact she empowered us..millions of us
    I shared that I was sexually assaulted to show that when you are a victim of a sex crime you do not remember all the details.Course I must be lying because I can’t prove it. I hope you do not have a daughter.
     
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    The men who go to prison for years like Bill Cosby have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Very few men go to prison for rape and that is why they can get away with it so easily. But yet so many women are raped. It’s very hard when you know a person is a rapist but can’t prove it and then have to take accusations like some people here saying that the women have ulterior motives . I didn’t even dream of reporting my assault but if it were today thanks to courageous women, I would report it in a minute..But perhaps my assaulter might think twice
     
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    AG Barr is a felon?
     
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    That's true but even then you cannot have 'guilt by accusation', If people make these allegations they should be forced to report to the police (which Ford never did) and if charges cannot be brought the accused should automatically be considered innocent.
     
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    It's very hard to be the innocent person accused. Your comments are utterly misandrist.
     
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    There is no evidence they lied but their recollection is obviously not to be trusted.
     
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    He did not admit to assault on tape

    Trying to have sex with a woman is not assault and irrelevant
     
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    When multiple people accused a person of witch craft with the same mo you would believe them.


    This is why we have presumption of innocence and have moved beyond such injustice
     
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    Most likely.

    “The average professional in this country wakes up in the morning, goes to work, comes home, eats dinner, and then goes to sleep, unaware that he or she has likely committed several federal crimes that day.” Alan Dershowitz, http://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229
     
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    The evidence that they lied is overwhelming.

    3) Worse, the four other people she identified as attending the party, including Kavanaugh, all deny knowledge of the gathering in question, including Leland Ingham Keyser, who she calls a “lifelong friend.”
    Keyser’s lawyer told the Senate Judiciary Committee: “Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with or without Dr. Ford.”

    The other two potential witnesses — Mark Judge and Patrick “P.J.” Smyth — also deny any recollection of attending such a party. The committee took their sworn statements “under penalty of perjury.” “These witnesses directly contradict Professor Ford’s allegations against Judge Kavanaugh,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley advised Ford’s attorneys last week."
    THE NEW YORK POST, Eight big problems for Christine Blasey Ford’s story, By Paul Sperry September 25, 2018.
    https://nypost.com/2018/09/25/eight-big-problems-for-christine-blasey-fords-story/
     
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    She lied. We all know it. She should be indicted for perjury.

    I do have a daughter. She was taught that if something ever happened, like she was sexually assaulted, to come to me/wife/family immediately for help. Not wait 2 years. It's called being a good parent and raising children right. I think you failed, especially from someone who claims to have been "assaulted". If it's even true, what you claim.

    Typical Democrat "I'm a victim" nonsense that can't even be proven.
     
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    It’s awful for the innocent person accused. But when you compare of the number of women which are millions who have been sexually assaulted and compare it to the tiny number of men who have been falsely accused in a trial it just says a lot. Any person who accuses another person of a crime whether it be robbery or rape or arson when they know what is not true should be prosecuted to the fullest.
     
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    What you don’t understand is thanks to the empowerment of women your daughter probably would come forward but that would not have happened 30years ago. And please don’t say that all those young women who have been sexually assaulted and didn’t report it is because they didn’t have parents as wonderful as you. You are a male and you have absolutely no understanding of what it was like years ago. My daughter and I have always been very close and she did not say anything because she blamed herself which was another common pattern.i didn’t Report my sexual assault because it was too threatening.
    And you make the point so beautifully when you don’t believe that I was assaulted and then you wonder why women didn’t report it? Thanks to the # me to movement women have been empowered and realized that they’re not alone.
    I bet you would believe your daughter but you question me. I wonder how you would feel if people thought your daughter was lying and that you were just a bad parent
    And how asinine and so trump-like to make sexual assault political. Trump sure knows his base
     
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    What you don't understand is that when women stand up in front of the world and lie about sexual assault, they trivialize all the women who really were assaulted. Democrats used women and Christine Ford put her own ambitions and monetary gains in front of real victims.

    Typical Democrats.

    My Daughter is smart and very well raised. She would never stand up and lie about something to smear a good man and deny him everything he worked for his entire life. Especially when the assault never occurred. Unlike Ford and others, honesty is her strong suit.

    I don't buy your "victimhood" for a second. It doesn't score you points with me in this thread. Nor should it to anyone. Bring facts not innuendos.
     
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    Right.

    How many unsolved rapes happen in the middle of department stores during business hours.
     
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    I wouldn't have to believe my daughter.

    All I'd have to do is check out the crime scene photos of the dead guy with his pants down.
     
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    We don't know that, we have no certainty with the figures. Unlike robber and arson sex crimes can be ambiguous, they're not so cut and dried.
     
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    Interestingly today prosecutors dropped the charges against Kevin Spacey as his accuser refused to provide potentially exculpatory evidence from his phone. Anyone want to imagine him walking away from the court, getting into a big car and like that...he'll be gone!
     
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    I think this is classic. You are saying that when a woman lies about sexual assault it trivializes it but yet you do not believe a woman who was sexually assaulted. You have it in your head that it could not have possibly happened even though you know that he was a drunk and we saw how he couldn’t control himself. Christine Ford had absolutely nothing to gain. She is financially very comfortable but it is not in your realm of reality that a woman has the courage to stand up. I believe her and millions of other women believe her and millions of men believe her because we’ve all experienced it. She shows the courage to stand up to men like you who accuse her of lying and then take off as though it is a fact.
    Your daughter would probably not stand up because it would be men like you who would accuse her of lying. Why should we believe your daughter.? Are you saying that Dr. Ford’s parents were not good parents? Are you saying they did not raise a good daughterYou are a wonderful example of why women didn’t report it but now women have become empowered and we don’t give a damn what you think....Millions of women have suffered sexual assaults, one in six. But you don’t care about them...they’re all liars.
     
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    Why is lying about any of these crimes different? Robbery and arson can be very ambiguous
     
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    So macho! Oh come on daughters probably lie. Don’t all women lie?
     
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    You believe her, good for you. Too bad she is liar, though and you, among millions of others, got suckered in to a complete and fabricated lie.
     
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    Ah, defending a misogynist who defends a misogynist. The beat goes on.
     
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    Are you ill informed or just generalizing ? Can you make such a stupid assumption ? Guess you can.
     
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