Yet another gun nut

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Nonnie, Jul 23, 2018.

  1. ECA

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    I wonder why you don't know the identity has been released.
     
  2. Texan

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    Our posts have these things called time stamps.
     
  3. ECA

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    Point being....maybe you shouldn't be so quick to assume something.
     
  4. perdidochas

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    Actually, they have pretty strict controls compared to the U.S. Why don't you research before you spout off?

    Also, if you read your article, you will note that a rental van killed more people in a terrorist attack there in April.
     
  5. Galileo

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    "A criminal defence lawyer says Toronto's proposed handgun ban isn't likely to keep illegal firearms out of the hands of criminals.

    "On Sunday, 29-year-old Faisal Hussain opened fire with a handgun on Toronto's Danforth Avenue, killing two people and injuring 13.

    "A confidential police source told CBC News the firearm has been traced to the United States, and that Hussain may have taken it from his comatose brother, who has alleged ties with a street gang."
    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappen...-the-u-s-border-not-with-ban-lawyer-1.4761091

    It's not surprising. It is very unlikely that someone with a history of mental health problems like Hussain would have been able to obtain a license to purchase a gun. Canada has a 28 day waiting period during which time a very thorough background check is conducted.
     
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  6. 6Gunner

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    It's even more unlikely that a person with "alleged ties with a street gang" would have acquired the firearm legally. Even in Canada a determined criminal can get a gun when they want one.
     
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    Then it was not legally acquired in the united states either. Therefore there is no point to further discussion on the matter.
     
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    So much for licensing, registration, waiting periods and background checks.
     
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    Update:

    "A statement of claim filed in a Canadian court alleges the gunmaker was negligent for not incorporating 'smart gun' technology in the firearm used in the shooting.

    "The proposed class action is seeking C$150m ($114m; £87m) in damages....

    "Smart gun technology prevents unauthorised users from firing a weapon by using different forms of identification, like finger or palm prints, or other locking devices....

    "The 40 series, introduced in 2005, did not include that technology. That includes the M&P40 semi-automatic pistol used by the shooter, Faisal Hussain....

    "The court filing also notes that the US Congress passed legislation in 2005 that grants broad immunity to gunmakers from civil actions resulting from the misuse of their products - but Canada has no such laws."
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50751903

    Why hasn't the gun industry made much of an effort to develop smart gun technology to reduce the risk its products pose to innocent people?
     
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    If the technology simply does not exist, and is not reliable enough for military and law enforcement purposes, firearm manufacturers cannot be held legally responsible for not including the technology in their product.

    Even if such technology were to be made readily available and reliable by tomorrow, it would still be of no use, as there would be no way for it to be retrofitted into existing firearms.

    How many mass shootings have been committed by those who legally purchased their firearms, and thus were the intended operator of the firearm?
     
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    Maybe the gun industry realizes that people won't buy them. I would never buy a gun with "smart gun technology" and many gun owners I know would not buy them either.

    The "products" made by the gun industry pose no risk to innocent people. A gun can sit on a shelf for years and do nothing but gather dust and maybe rust a little. It is someone acting irresponsibly that poses risk to the innocent.
     
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    because they aren't responsible for someone using their product in an illegal manner.
     
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    Why would the manufacturer of a product that's used illegally be responsible?
     
  16. Richard The Last

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    Just thinking out loud here... If manufacturers can be held responsible... I wonder if I can force Stanley, Black and Decker to buy me a new lawnmower?
    The other day a guy used a Stanley pry bar to break into my shed and steal my lawnmower.
     
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    They aren’t and shouldn’t be, that was my point.
     
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    And if the U.S. had the same gun laws he would have obtained his gun form a little further South, GCA's have no clue of reality.
     
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    None of which work.
     
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    Because it has been proven not to work in a reliable manner.

    Try studying the matter before making yourself look even more uninformed.
     
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    A disarmed populace are sheep waiting to be slaughtered.
     
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    We are awaiting the day when people realize that no gun is a murder weapon until used by a person bent on murder-
    Remove their gun, they chose an alternate means.
    Remove the person- and you solve the problem.

    Guns, or weapons of any kind aren't the problem. People who lack mental stability and become violent are the problem.
    This has been true or thousands of years, but we learn very slowly.
     
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