Yet another Musk overreach.

All it takes is for Trump to give him permission. So yes, he more than likely does have the legal right to "invade USAID" as you put it.

 

Yet every government knows that the aide is being used to build those relationships for influence. Sorry, but I doubt very seriously that the facade is working.

 

Got it, you aren't for checks and balances like the Constitution sets out, bet you hated how Biden and the Black Muslim used exec power, and whined non stop, when Cheeto goes beyond ANY previous exec has ever done, you say he won

The right has warned for 40+ years of one world power and the danger of billionaires like Soros, allowing Leon Musk into US Gov't data bases without meeting bormal conflict rules, is ok.

The ends justify the means in the rights "meaning" of the Constitution

 

""Over the weekend dozens of administrators were suspended for obeying the law.""

So... they have been placed on administrative leave... a 90-day pause to have a look at what is going on...what is the big deal.... NO ONE HAS BEEN SUSPENDED FOR OBEYING THE LAW. They still get their pay and benefits... heck they can go on a long vacation if they want to the beach.... looks like a win-win situation for them...

 

There is a name for the Executive Branch taking over independent agencies. It's called a "power grab".

Congress and the courts have become irrelevant with this admin, as the checks and balances are removed in favor of their political leader in WH.

 

Some people want to do a good job. Any of these people could be called in today. The courts will likely step in and they all need to be available on a moments notice. By law all of USAID personnel work for an agency under direct control by the Congress. I once received a relatively small USAID financing and it had to be put up for approval by the Congress not the White House.

Who goes to court? Not the president since the infamous Supreme Court ruling on immunity. Rubio who has declared himself in charge? Does the president back down? Will House Democrats go for actual criminal charges? Was this a ploy to get Rubio out ignominiously? If Republicans support this they should be impeached.

 

I've actually said time and time again that Congress has given up too much power to the Executive Branch. And have for 3 decades no matter who the President was. But you know what I never complained about? Them using their exec powers legitimately. Such as firing someone that works in the Executive Branch. Unlike you.

As far as the "Black Muslim" race baiting comment, I challenge you to find a single post of mine that refers to Obama in such a way. GL though as you will never find such. In fact you may even find some posts where I defended Obama in regards to that birther nonsense.

As far as checks and balances goes, I'm all for them. The problem is that Congress has given up so much of their power to the Executive Branch is that the only check they pretty much have now against the Executive Branch is the purse. When they used to have so much more. Even you acknowledge this by not being able to answer my questions. You see, the Executive Branch was never meant to make law. Yet, now they can. All thanks to Congress. So again, If you don't want a dictator, then don't give a lone person unnecessary power by letting them use the power of another branch of government.

 

They're not independent agencies if they are placed under the control of the Executive Branch.

 

You didn't get the point. They were independent until the power grab by Donald Trump admin. More such agencies will follow, and be placed under direct control of the president

This will soon be edited, to say it is now directly under Executive Branch, and funding is appropriated by the White House, not the Congress.

And not only that, but Musk has been given control over the Federal payment system, so he controls billions of dollars of taxpayer money

United States Agency for International Development
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Agency_for_International_Development
The United States Agency for International Development (USAID) is an independent agency of the United States government that is primarily responsible for administering civilian foreign aid and development assistance.

 

They weren't under executive branch any more than the Supreme Court is. The president names the director when a vacancy occurs but independent agencies answer directly to Congress. Undoubtedly USAID will consult with ambassadors to work but they do not answer to them.

 

@StillBlue
"administrators were suspended"
What is your argument? These administrators were put on paid leave.. they have lost no money... they well may be propped up on Waikiki Beach soaking in the sun...

The post "suspended for obeying the law." is just more disinformation and propaganda.

 

Kinda odd when we don't dare pause and have a look at what is going on behind the scenes....

 

Oddly enough some people have respect for the law and want to do their jobs as well as.possible.
People, mostly innocent children, will die needlessly because of these shenanigans and some administrators actually care about that.

 

Great.... show us these administrators that broke the laws...

"innocent children, will die"
Really @StillBlue ... do you really want to go there????????

 

I don't need to go there, I live there. USAID has suspended a project here that would have brought 200 John Deere tractors, accessories and training as part of a large agricultural project. Aside from the positive impact financially thousands of children will grow to become adults that otherwise would not have.
To me the president and his "advisor" Musk are cold calculating murderers. While the courts will shut down this mularky in the meantime hungry kids will die rather than be taking paid vacations.

 

Which doesn't mean that it isn't true, just that you haven't heard of it. Turns out, they were sending something like 47-85M a week to the Taliban. Sarah Adams has documented this, she's gone public with the facts. Should you want to take the time to read her content, feel free.

https://x.com/TPASarah/status/1875498838506586528?mx=2

 

Yeah because shoving Drag queen shows and birth control at Muslims and conservative Roman Catholic countries are how you win friends and influence people.

 

No @StillBlue "innocent children, will die" is about as low as it gets on here..... this just hit the bottom... please show us these dead starved children...

 

With all do respect the likelihood of those tractors ever showing up between currupt local government and corruption at USAID itself you'll be lucky to see 10. And if and when by some miracle you get some of them you'll discover that the tractors by themselves are essentially useless and you need another couple of hundred k or more at todays prices to make them useful.

 

LMAOROG. THE AGREEMENT CHEEO SIGNED WHEN HE RELEASED 5,000 TALIBAN? That's the one she is referring too?

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/02.29.20-US-Afghanistan-Joint-Declaration.pdf

Afghanistan money is THEIR money.

Maybe Cheeto shouldn't have bowed to them?

 

Yet, I'll ask again, what crimes? You, Musk, and the president keep talking about them without identifying any of them. Unpaid parking tickets perhaps?
We have a president famous for lying why do you not ever force him to back up all the statements that others like me call lies? Is there a special signal he makes like Musk's Nazi salute to tip you to when he's actually telling the truth?

 

You are both incorrect. USAID was just as affected by executive orders as any other agency under the Executive Branch. Just to show this I used ChatGPT to answer the question "does USAID have to obey executive orders by a President?" and then did a follow up question regarding Obama's executive orders that affected USAID. Here are the results.






You both obviously think that just because an agency is labeled "independent" that it actually IS independent. But its not. Not if its under the Executive Branch's control. They still have to follow the Presidents directives. The ONLY way an agency can truly be labeled "independent" is if it is not a part of the government period. A private entity like for example The American Red Cross which actually does give out aid that isn't tied to politics. Because its not a part of government period.

 

Um.....yea.... as people have pointed out USAID was NOT under the Executive Branch.

As for the topic...... anyone else doing what Musk is doing, like hacking the Treasury databases would in in jail by now, but apparently he has total immunity to commit crimes given by the WH.

 

That does appear to be how it’s shaking out. He has the legislative and judicial branches, so he will likely be able to abuse the constitution at will. I mean, all presidents violate the constitution to a degree, but this guy has said, “hold my beer.”

The court will likely agree with him that the executive with unchecked power is perfectly constitutional.

 

Over a million kids every year. I have a long way to go to get as low as the current administration. Once kids reach the level above their life expectancy drops to weeks.