You can have one gun for home defense...

They like to blow up too.

 

I've looked at them, but it just seems too gimmicky and not that well made, imho.

 

I'm torn between this:



and this:

 

12 gauge pump. I also own a 300 blk SBR, would still rather have the 12 gauge if only allowed one gun.

 

You haven't lived until you've cleared a jammed one.

 

In a gun fight, you drop a jammed gun and continue shooting.

 

Not a Mark 19 lol

 

Gotta keep the crew served up!

 

*WHUMPWHUMPWHUMP* ..... JAAAAM! /insert "Run Away" from Monty Python.

 

One thing I always address when doing firearms instruction are the various jam clearing drills. A jam in the midst of a fight can send adrenaline though the roof, resulting in a bad outcome. It happened to me in my second fight, fortunately, after the initial panic and because I had backup, I was able to take cover and resolve the issue...without the time afforded by backup, the outcome could have been different. That memory, is why I practice and teach jam clearing drills. But, a bit harder to teach and detect is an potentially dangereous squib. I have a couple gun examples of the result of firing a squib round and a video I use in my classes to get the idea across. That and double/triple loads when shooting black powder (particularly) in damp conditions can be very dangereous... in the civil war, many guns were recovered from the field with double, triple and more rounds loaded, one I encountered in the shop when a young fellow brought in an old .58 Springfield he claimed wouldn’t work. It had likely been loaded by a long deceased ancestor and when he got it he loaded it and attempted to fire it...twice (many people don’t know how to check if a round has been loaded in a front stuffer, and probably fewer know how to safely remove one).

 

Following that line, GCAs often whine about saving children’s lives, but then are ok with not teaching children’s about gun safety, dangers of household poisons, and other lessons of safety...essentially not teaching risk recognition and mitigation, condemning many to avoidable accidents.
See those two holes in the wall? Pretend they aren’t there.
At the beginning of secondary school in Ireland, we had classes and extra curricular training with metal work and capentry working with potentially dangereous equipment and were taught safe practices with tools, training I had been given working in my uncle’s steel and metal shop from about age 7 or 8. Without knowing current practices, I wonder, if that was/is being done here or been deemed too dangereous and gone the way of firearms and archery training in schools?

 

Yep. One thing you probably would only see once is a squib in a mk19 though

 

No problem for me, I don’t carry one; never found a suitable IWB holster for one, LOL.

 

LOL I started trying to think what i'd need to make the belt out of.

That bastard is heavy, that much I can tell you. That tripod, which I still have horrible memories of, weighs over 50 lbs of unwieldy, crush your collar bone, slide open at the worst times, pain in the ass thing to carry that you can imagine.

 

That tells me you’ve experience with one... the memory of dealing with the weight and discomfort surpassing shooting one. IWB Carry would probably weigh down my pants and make me look like an old gangbanger wannabe.

 

Yeah but you'd be the scariest gangbanger wannabe on the planet

Unfortunately yeah I am familiar with them. I'm a "put it on semi-auto and stuff as much 556 as possible" kind of guy though. Automatic grenade launchers are great until you realize you can sustain fire for about 3 minutes before running out of ammo.

 

Modified Beretta M-79 40mm launcher plus the various specialty rounds for other purposes is all the launcher I want.

 

I'd probably go for a SBR AR in .223.

 

For a home defense gun, if I was going with a 5.56/.223 I would definitely want to get that suppressed. I remember torching off a 10.5" SBR in 5.56 in an indoor combat simulator, and even with muffs the blast made my head ring, and the muzzle flash was blinding.

 

Then I'll add that to the parameters.

 

A couple thoughts. An SBR and suppressor would be nice, but you might be waiting 8 months or more. Another option is 16” barrel, and if you reload, adjust your load... heavier bullet...faster powder (to burn more completely... for that purpose, I tested H322powder, with lighter powder load and heavier bullet...seemed to help). Gun flash, any gun, can have detrimental effect on night vision. I have tested going with a laser on my home defense options and keeping one eye closed, supposed old pirate trick (eye patch...Lol) in blackout situations, giving me night vision when needed after first shot or two, with the laser making it easier to target when switching eyes. I do keep ear plugs with the gun in my sleeping room. While I have an AR and 12g, I think of my home defense go to gun as my HK45C with a Crimson Trace, loaded with .45 SMC 185g hollow points (prob 1300 FPS out of my gun) avail from DoubleTap or load your own. But, I wouldn’t complain about a surpressed SBR AR upper for my AR battery.

 

I keep hearing about and thinking, .300 Blk out is the caliber du jour, while I have not tried it yet, I sure want to.....
Re-loading, is a must in any case !!!!

 

I have heard a few good things about the .300, particularly for CQB, but haven’t experience with it. I do have uppers for the 6.5 Grendel and .458 SOCOM... the 6.5 being an excellent long range round in testing (have yet taken game with it but impresssed by it’s accuracy) and the .458 drops hogs with authority, but hits hard on both sides if the gun and maybe too much round, sound and flash for the roll. At home, while I reach for my G26 (Hornady SD rounds) with CT and G17 mags or my HK45C (2 mags of .450SMC 185gr HP) with CT, I keep my AR with the 5.56 upper mounted and a mag of .55 gr accessible. I do have available a folding stock 12g with mix slug and OO. I have tested various 5.56 loads probably more suitable for Home SD for it, but always seem to not set it aside for that roll.

 

I played with 6.5mm-06 built on a Ruger M-77 action,
I shot @ 300 meters, IIRC, 120 grain hp, exceeding 3,200 fps, it had a light contoured barrel, and a quality scope, very accurate, I was shooting at a letter sized envelope, with a crude silver dollar magic marker circle drawn on it, hanging on a bramble branch waving in the wind.

I always liked the Ruger M-77 action with an integral scope mount built into the receiver, and using scope mounts that allow quick on and off without changing zero in any way.

I shot prone, leaning off my arm and achieved a 3/4 inch group, my last shot opened up the group.

So yes, I really like 6.5 calibers from past experience, I had a Carcano and an Arisaka too that were pretty accurate as well as a Gustav Mauser.

 

Funny you mentioned the Arisaka. One was owned by a good friend when I was in Ireland. It was the first gun I ever did reloads for as rounds were scarce.
I have always liked the 6mm class. I have never taken game with one. Last I heard, the military was considering a move to the 6.5 Remmington...not sure the status of that however.