You might be a progressive IF: 1. You think that subsidies are an entitlement, tax cuts are a gift we can't afford, and liberty is a controlled substance. 2. You totally hate haters, and wish they all would just die. 3. You know that gender is a social construct and could write a thesis on the subject, but have no idea where electricity comes from. 4. You think that banks earning interest is wrong, but paying China on interest is a must, in fact, we must borrow more!! 5. You think that people should have fewer kids and those same kids need to pay for YOUR social security and health benefits. 6. You believe education is the single most critical key to our future, but your only critique on public education is that teachers need to be payed more. In addition, measuring the success of public education is not really attainable. 7. You think that treating all people equally, regardless of race, is racist. 8. You would rather ride a bike to work that ride in an evil carbon burning SUV, however, you would jump at the chance to ride in a jet to Hawaii that would burn a years worth of carbon emissions from that same SUV. 9. You spend the day trying to convince people that a border fence simply won't work, then drive home to your gated community. 10. You think that right wingers need to be silenced and rounded up to prevent them from acting like a bunch of fascists. 11. You think that credit card companies are evil for lending out money, but that mortgage companies are also evil for not handing out mortgages. 12. You hate Dick Cheney with every fiber of your being. In fact, you hate him even more than you hate WalMart, however, you mindlessly and unknowingly support the Dick Cheney Doctrine that deficits simply don't matter anymore. 13. You think that Republicans are warmongering fascists but that Democrats are Nobel Peace Prize deserving saints. 14. You think guns are evil, however, you support a government that would take those same guns from us by force with a gun pointed at our collective heads. 15. You support Barak Obama. You also support the OWS agenda to "bring down corporations" so that same Barack Obama can then turn around and use your tax payer money to bail them out once again. 16. You are a globalist and think that Americans should not have all the wealth in the world, but get angry when jobs go overseas.
You are intelligent enough to appreciate intelligent people like Pascal, Kant, Voltaire, Lincoln, JFK, Martin Luther King, Harry Belafonte, etc. etc. etc...
Nah, theyre not entitlements, and Im a life long lib. No please dont die, youre too much fun. I think you refer to college educated young people. Their ignorance is understandable. Eh? what lib thinks that? Libs dont rely on the future. Actually a fair point. Kudos. you got us. Ive changed that opinion a decade ago. Of course not. But neither is affirmative action. agreed? Why? Arent we all supposed to be too poor for that? Hmm a bit late for that, lets just kill them instead. Eh? Um no, deficits are the fault of all sides. But cons only want spending cuts to fix them. Problem? Hmmm. Take by force? Um no. get off your arse and speak to the OWS. Jobs, not wealth.
you don't waste time posting lists of obvious lies and drivel. you use you head for something besides a hat-rack. you served in Viet Nam in stead of marrying your high school teacher in order to dodge the draft. you can read. you get your information by studying the issues, not listening to the voices coming from your rice krispies. you don't think pizza is a vegetable.
So you agree that taxes are gifts given out we can't afford and that liberty is a controlled substance? Hilarious!! BTW, whether money is given out via subsidies or tax reductions makes no difference, other than whose pockets you are lining. Why libs can't see this is mind boggling. Essentially, those in Washington want to line pockets in order to control people, and is what libs support which is Big government getting bigger. As for libs not relying on the future, not a more true word spoken. Thanks for that admission. As for my children, may they not be too bitter towards people like you for spending their money and for dismantling their future for your own materialistic gain for the here and now.
Yes, these progressives are soooo intelligent. After all, who else can use your tax dollars to bail out corporate America, then convince you and the OWS movement that you are really on the side of the "work'in man". Hilarious!! You see, to be a progressive means that you must be intelligent because you need to be an expert on EVERYTHING!! That is because they demand to be in control of everything. That means that in terms of the economy, they must be in full control of that economy and must minipulate it in any fashion you deem "fair" and "appropriate". You are also must be an expert on health care because you must be in full control of all health care for everyone. There are no exceptions, one size fits all. Then the same must be done for education and the environment and the list is endless really. All that is known is that the government needs to have more control than it does now because we still have problems. After all, we all know that problems are from the "intelligent" people not having enough control over us unenlightened folk. You can never have enough control. Then at the end of the day, any time they have left over from running the lives of all us "unenlightened" folk, can be spent sitting around reading Voltaire and Kant and Mein Kampf, or whatever they can grab to further enlighten themsevles on how to run the world. Now get back out there and elect more progressives into office so we all don't wind up dying in the streets. After all, they are the glue that holds the universe together.
OR would rather ride a bike than an evil carbon burning SUV to the rally to hear some other Progressive talk about saving the world from Global Climate Change...who flew in on a private jet then took a ten SUV motocade to the rally...
you do know that Lincoln was a Republican? and what has Harry Belafonte done that a million other people haven't?? be Black and sing?
The opposition? You mean the party of "W"? You know, the man who calls Obama "mini-me". They both have taken the same roads in terms of wars abroad, insane spending, and huge entitlements with ignoring illegal immigration to boot. Honestly, I see no real difference between the two other than the fact that one had a R before his name and the other a D.
One may have a job without being wealthy. A job is generally a first requirement in obtaining wealth that one can then perhaps save.
well remember, knowledge is a tricky thing...you would think (not being a Progressive) that ALL knowledge is equal; but you would be wrong. see the definition of knowledge is: knowl·edge (nlj) n. 1. The state or fact of knowing. 2. Familiarity, awareness, or understanding gained through experience or study. 3. The sum or range of what has been perceived, discovered, or learned. 4. Learning; erudition: teachers of great knowledge. 5. Specific information about something. 6. Carnal knowledge. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/knowledge note that no where in this definition does a field of study or degree get mentioned. To a Progressive, only certain types of knowledge shows you have intelligence, only certain types of knowledge are valuable. to the average person, it is more important that your knowledge be relevant to the real world...for example, a doctor, an accountant, a plumber, a farrier... to a Progressive, your 'knowledge' must be in a subset of approved disciplines or you can't be 'intelligent'. For example, a person that can rewire your house is stupid; the person that can tell you who the city of Albany, New York was named after is *Intelligent*. to a Progressive, a man that can evaluate at a glance the health and well being of a horse and how to help if it is sick is stupid; the person that can quote a nineteenth century Progressive is *Intelligent* to be a Progressive, you MUST have a degree in something that has absolutely no value in the real world at all. to do anything else proves you are not smart.
My question to you is, do we want politicians making decisions about how our grade schooler is taught? Do we want politicians making decisions about what our medical care? Do we want politicians making decisions about what is best for the economy? Do we want politicians making decisions about what is best for the environment etc? You might say that politicians have placed "experts" in such positions to make these decision for us, however, as I have watched Ben Barnanke get up in front of Congress to watch him beg them to stop their fiscal madness to no avail, I begin to scratch my head. As I watch public schools across the country begin to fail to compete internationally even though statists in the US spend the most of any country to educate them, I just am perplexed. As I watch doctors come forth in protest to Obamacare with many wanting to retire instead of being subjected to such oversight, I begin to wonder. As I see a few scientists come out and openly question conclusions about global warming I get down right concerned. To sum up, only God could fill the role of such control and knowledge. Of course, I feel as though the state has become the god of many and as I sit here questioning their authority and wisdom of such "intellectually enlightened" statists I may very well stand in danger of an inquisition of some type and any subsequent penalty for such heresy. Of course, the question should be asked, if God himself does not demand such control, then who is man to do so?
A job at Burger King may not be much to you, but to someone in a third world country it is wealth. Make no mistake, you cannot seperate wealth from jobs. Money is money and the degree to what you consider to be wealth is subjective.
absolutely I do NOT want the government to do any of these things. I agree with the sentiment that the scariest words in the English language are "I am from the government and I am here to help".
Indeed but were not talking about international people. First a job is required for wealth. Even in ethiopia.
Arg!! Once again, where wealth is one can find jobs. How hard is this to comprehend? Face it, progressives say they favor redistribution to those in need, but when it comes right down to it, they only agree to this if others flip the bill. That means that the person in Ethiopia can have a job, just so long as they don't take THEIR job. The poor can be given money via taxes, just so long as it is only the top 1% who pay higher taxes. This philosophy is berift of honesty and full of hypocrisy. Don't you know that the poorest of the poor in the US are much better off than the well to do in Ethiopia? But all you do is clamor about how the jobs and wealth need to stay in the US.
Do you realize that Liberals used to be opposed to redistribution and any form of socialism? Liberal used to mean "Focused on the increase of individual freedom." Only when the socialists in Europe invaded the liberal party in the '40s did the meaning start to change.
The terms right wing and left wing are inane. What is better is to identify them as statists. In fact, the traditional term liberal used to mean the opposite of authoritarian. However, anything can be further from the truth in terms of modern day liberalism. Now I go to jail if I don't have health insurance. Try going to San Fran. You can't even get a happy meal there anymore.
Rubbish, even poor places and people can provide jobs. And what comes before wealth? A job, in every circumstance. Progressive agree to progressive income tax where everyone pays their share. Its not hypocritical, its direct and very honest. Ive directly disagreed with you. The poverty of ethiopians is irrelevant. Or is it not?
Are people upset if minimum wage jobs go over seas? No. That is the point of the OP. They are only upset if good paying jobs go overseas, i.e, wealth leaving the US.
