You Say You Want a Revolution? I Do Too. It's Why I Support Hillary Clinton

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Would there really be a revolution if Hillary got in? Is this an attempt to boost the most likely way to a Democratic victory? Would you vote with your vagina?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lorraine-devon-wilke/you-say-you-want-a-revolu_b_9015576.html

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    You Say You Want a Revolution? I Do Too. It's Why I Support Hillary Clinton
    Posted: 01/19/2016 2:55 am EST Updated: 4 hours ago

    Culture is a wily beast. So difficult to manage, so impossible to predict, yet it is exactly who and what we need to attend to, to honor, at this pivotal moment in our civic evolution. And culture, society, our trajectory as a nation, demands that we expand our thinking to embrace a different paradigm of leadership...

    ...to elect a female President of the United States.

    It's a necessary progression, a turn in the zeitgeist; a cultural revolution in how this large and boisterous country of ours is governed. It's about accepting a more informed view of leadership to understand that men do it differently...but women do it better.

    That's not sexist hyperbole. A comprehensive study by the Harvard Business Review, one that analyzed gender differentials in leadership, came to exactly that conclusion: "Women do it better than men."

    The majority of leaders (64%) are still men. And the higher the level, the more men there are: In this group, 78% of top managers were men, 67% at the next level down (that is, senior executives reporting directly to the top managers), 60% at the manager level below that.
    Similarly, most stereotypes would have us believe that female leaders excel at "nurturing" competencies such as developing others and building relationships, and many might put exhibiting integrity and engaging in self-development in that category as well. And in all four cases our data concurred -- women did score higher than men.
    But the women's advantages were not at all confined to traditionally women's strengths. In fact at every level, more women were rated by their peers, their bosses, their direct reports, and their other associates as better overall leaders than their male counterparts -- and the higher the level, the wider that gap grows.
    Specifically, at all levels, women are rated higher in fully 12 of the 16 competencies that go into outstanding leadership. And two of the traits where women outscored men to the highest degree -- taking initiative and driving for results -- have long been thought of as particularly male strengths. As it happened, men outscored women significantly on only one management competence in this survey -- the ability to develop a strategic perspective.
    There are charts and graphs you can avail yourself of that illustrate the points, but the takeaway is that we are systemically ignoring the exceptionalism of women in positions of leadership simply because we live in a country that has always been male-dominated, has always provided more opportunities, better pay, and more aggressive advancement for men over woman.

    That needs to change. And seating a woman in the Oval Office seems a very good way to move that message forward.

    But, ah... Hillary Clinton. Has any woman ever been as polarizing, as controversial? One wouldn't think so. Considering her impressive resume, decades of service, and the respect she's garnered around the world, it's stunning to note the sheer volume of irrational, disproportionate, and sexist negativity that comes her way, an onslaught that she remarkably endures and transcends. Whatever else you might say about her (and there's never a shortage of things people might say about her!), the woman has some serious cajones!

    Of course, those who actually know her tend to sing her praises. I read and enjoyed Gloria Steinem's analysis from her new book, My Life On the Road, which offers a sharp and personal contrast to the more generalized "Hillary-hate" we witness as a matter of routine. Steinem, a brilliant woman in her own right, has spent a lifetime fighting for women's causes, and her take on "why the White House needs Hillary Clinton" is quite moving. I urge you to click over and read it when you're done here.

    But we all know one speaks positively of Hillary Clinton at their own peril. Beyond the knee-jerk response of right-wing haters, we've also got, during this election cycle, the #FeelTheBern gang, with their immediate and often sneering retorts to any post, article, or comment spoken or written in support of Clinton. I'm not sure why there is such hissing antipathy for the "other Democratic candidate," but weary bromides include any combination of "Monsanto, Wall Street, (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), big banks, 'she lies!!,' crone, Benghazi," etc., all while extolling the "brand positives" of their own candidate. It's tiresome and unnecessary, but has become expected at this point.

    As for the boorish "I don't vote with my vagina" meme (per Sanders supporter, Susan Sarandon.), let me say this to that: I don't either. My vagina is too busy doing other more vagina-oriented things to influence my vote. And, believe me, if the female choices for president were limited to Carly Fiorina, Michele Bachmann, or Sarah Palin, my vagina would go running right for the best male option on the Democratic roster. In fact, if I thought Bernie Sanders really was the best candidate, I'd put aside the "old, white, male" issue and vote for the guy (and will in the general if he gets the nomination).

    But I don't think that. Given her platforms, her history, her experience, and what I believe this country needs at this moment in time, I'm with her. That isn't blind feminism. It's about acknowledging the historical juncture at which we find ourselves, one in which we actually have a valuable, viable, and very worthy female candidate who offers us the opportunity to change and advance our culture in profound and revolutionary ways.

    Yes, revolutionary.
     
  2. 1up2down

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    yeah she is just great. Her successful experience and wholesome ethics have really shown me a lot though the last few years.
     
  3. milorafferty

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    This line says it all. Doesn't matter, as long as the right letter is behind their name. Democrats are so full of (*)(*)(*)(*) they look like Republicans.
     
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    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    I hope Hillary is elected President and History will be made.
     
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    She'll more than likely get in, but she hasn't got a single idea rattling around that could ever be considered "revolutionary". She's a placeholder for Cory Booker's run (which will be even-less thrilling).
     
  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    The problem is that Hillary, Benghazi and all, is still head and shoulders over any Republican so far offered. Hillary is, possibly, either a little dishonest or a little incompetent, maybe even more than a little. We can only hope she'd have good people around her to head off any problems that might arise. All of the Republicans are flat out nuts, we have to hope that, like Bush, they're NOT very competent and DON'T have good help, because God help us all if they do.
     
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    only difference between Jeb and Hillary is the color of their pants. If Jeb wore a pink pair they could pass for twins
     
  8. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which one of the republican candidates let four American die then lied to their mothers faces about it?
    Also, did any republican candidates steal government information and store it in their bathrooms?
     
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    You mean like Pearl Harbor made history.

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    I do not know why people miss that. No more Clinton's or Bush's in the White House.
     
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    Drop the little and go with extremely !
     
  11. PARTIZAN1

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    Wrong time. wrong woman to be making history. Of course it's a moot point since the Trumpet will trounce her.

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    Pearl Harbor ??? You mean that Hillary will sneak up on the White House and attack it ?
     
  12. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She was Secretary of State? Are you telling me your government and especially anyone in that position didn't lie in the past when having to explain the death of servicemen?
    Do you mean that she used her email in a bathroom? What source do you have for this and what exactly are you accusing her of? Using her email in the bathroom?
     
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    It's revolutionary to give power back to the people and principles of the 90s?!?!
     
  14. APACHERAT

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    She'll more than likely get in some federal prison.
     
  15. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where have you been for the last entire year? Someone else fill him in. I cant do this.
     
  16. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please do... Searching for this "story" gave me this:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...estions-security-sensitive-messages-held.html
    Trustworthy site indeed which an American outlet picks up on:
    http://nypost.com/2015/08/18/hillarys-email-server-was-run-out-of-an-old-bathroom-closet/
    Citing Daily Mail as it's source...

    Nothing else on this story.

    For reference: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Daily_Mail
     
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    You might be right. The woman just cant help but keep getting *******ed!
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Barhroom closets are in bathrooms. Hillary was storing classified information there whether you accept it or not. Nixon resigned over what would be considered by clinton standards an almost laughable offense by todays dems. Its good that you acknowledge she was storing our info in the (*)(*)(*)(*)ter.
     
  20. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please give me sources for this since as I wrote in the previous comment that I can't find any reliable information about it.
    Please use source criticism before posting random right wing outlets.
     
  21. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your links state bathroom closet in the title. Denial is fascinating.
     
  22. Gaius_Marius

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    Clearly we are at an impass.....I have an Idea how about we indict Hillary and have her tell us exactly where she stored classified government information. If you are correct you shouldnt have any issue with the truth right? Agree?
     
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    I am in no way a supporter of Hillary Clinton. If you have real evidence of wrong doing throw the book at her. Please do so before the primaries so Bernie Sanders can become your next president.
     
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    Id accept bernie over a criminal. At least hes an honest commie. Why who knew global warming causes terrorism.
     

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