You voted for Biden ... now be honest

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Why did you vote for Biden

Poll closed Nov 15, 2020.
  1. Biden got my vote due to his character that I shall explain

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  2. Biden got my vote because the Media persuaded me Trump is bad

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  1. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Both parties have participated in voter fraud &/or suppression at various times during our history. The age of Jim Crow is a good example. Personally, I feel the Democrats have been far more self-reflecting & open to change with this issue since the Lyndon Johnson administration, & is much more supportive of open, free elections today than the Republicans. What's happening right now under Trump, with his multiple court challenges to the 2020 election, plus his constant attempts to disqualify ballots cast for his opponent, all add up to a real focused attempt to undermine both our voting system & the democratic principles underlying it. Trump has become the most dangerous threat to our existing elections system I've seen in my lifetime. Those supporting him may or may not be aware of the harm they are doing to America thru their support, but it's very real.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Good post. The only thing you're leaving out is that the gullible people involved in this process end up believing their own propaganda, earning their own personal space in that woo-woo land of alternative realities. It would be sad were it not so dangerous. :(
     
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    The Trump appointed head of our national elections, publicly stated that the 2020 election was the most heavily watched & most secure of any election in American history. My wife & I watched it from early evening thru the dead mid morning hours, switching channels frequently to get the widest possible view. What we saw convinced us of the honesty, integrity & personal commitment of all those we saw interviewed in every state, to their making sure this election accurately reflected the choices of the voters themselves. I believe it did. There has been ample time since Nov 3 for Trump & his legal teams to present evidence of fowl play in any court in any state across the nation. The fact that they haven't done so, speaks for itself. They haven't because that evidence doesn't exist. If you care about truth, then watch what they do, not what they say. There may be a handful of votes cast by someone related to a dead voter, but they are so few as to be negligible--NOT numbered in the hundreds, & certainly not enough to change the outcome.

    Biden got over 5.5 MILLION votes more than Trump. That's a powerful statement from our people on their choice. If you believe every American has a voice, then listen to that voice instead of the self-serving droning on of Trump.
     
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    Sure thing. I am sure the investigators Trump sent to investigate Obama's birth certificate will be making their report public any day now, and Trump will finally release his health care plan that will cover everyone for less money. How do supposedly rational people fall for this nonsense.

    Trump has made a career out of selling nonsense to gullible people. He is a fake real estate tycoon who is a fake billionaire, who in reality is about 1 billion dollars in debt and will likely spend time in prison after his one term as president. Even when I spell out the process Trump uses to spread his nonsense, people don't get it. It is sad really. What is sadder is that these people vote and their are a lot of them.
     
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    Trump did everything for Putin except dropping to his knees and fellating him. (I am sure he took care of that in private). And, of course, the 3.5B thing is more nonsense from the orange con man.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachel...putin-thats-not-exactly-true/?sh=794b31575d42
     
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    The FBI was surveilling Russians and they intercepted conversations because the Trump campaign had so many conversations with dirty, criminal Russians. That's reality. That's why Trump and his lapdog AG never even tried to bring a criminal case against Obama.

    If a person is going to consort with criminals, he or she should not be surprised when he or she becomes embroiled in criminal investigations.
     
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    Sure... LOL

    And the report from the investigators who are in Hawaii investigating Obama's birth certificate are getting ready to release their bombshell report any day now. I also hear OJ's investigators are almost ready to release their report on who actually killed OJ's wife.

    It's true, though, that Trump knows what he's doing. He is sowing nonsense knowing his base will believe anything he says and spread the nonsense far and wide. I wonder if people like you will finally understand he is full of crap when Biden takes the oath on January 20th. I guess he will come up with a reason why he isn't ready to disclose all his bombshell info yet. LOL
     
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    Since LBJ? The only good thing he did was civil rights and he was a terribly corrupt leader. If the legal system works than there is nothing to fear. Clinton never went to jail and there was zero russian collusion so here's the real test. Because fraud has been shown multiple times in this election and it's worth investigating.
     
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    Total votes dont matter. Also you must have stopped watching before they said they were done counting sent poll watchers home then restarted counting.
     
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    Every presidential election there are people who vote against a candidate rather than for a candidate. However this year I believe most of those who voted for Biden did not actually do so because they supported his ideas. They reacted to his message and that was just Trump is a bad man.
     
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    Thanks bunches for showing how "not-racist" you are. You certainly convinced yourself.
     
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    You're exactly the kind of person the Trump/Republican propaganda machine loves--an unquestioning, dedicated, loyal follower. Wow. First, there certainly was Russian collusion. Second, the only election fraud in 2020, was that instigated by Trump himself along with his cohorts. It's still going on. His lawyers have filed over 30 lawsuits in various courts scattered across the country, trying to claim fraud, but they've never once come up with the necessary evidence to support their claims. All 30 cases have been killed by the courts. Trump's own appointee to head the election commission for 2020, publicly stated that the 2020 election "was the most secure in American history." That man, a good Republican, was fired by Trump for doing his job correctly. Now Trump is looking into working behind the scenes trying to convince Michigan & other key states that went for Biden, to ignore the voters & appoint Trump Electors to keep him in office. Trump is the one engaged in voter fraud. I'm shocked you can't see it. Or, perhaps you're not interested in seeing it. Trump is being Trump again. As always, it's all about Trump, & neither the law, the voters, nor democracy itself matters. You want to be part of that?
     
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    There were poll watchers from both parties in every state & every district whenever ballots were being counted. The courts asked Trump's lawyers that very question, & being under oath, & members of the bar, they cchose not to lie. They admitted poll watchers were present in every case. Trump lies--constantly. Do you lack the ability to discern truth from lies, or is it that truth is not important to you?
     
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    You can be very well aware of the scientific FACT that different human races exist, without having the mind-set of a "racist". Do you comprehend the difference? I am a "Caucasoid" -- "white" -- SO WHAT?! Some other person may be "Negroid" -- "black" -- SO WHAT?! And, (ta-dah!), one other person may be "Mongoloid" (East-Asian) -- SO WHAT?!

    But everybody, especially on the radical Left, has to go into breathless paroxysms of astonishment and ecstasy whenever they're able to announce that "so-and-so" is the first Black (BLACK) to do, or be this, that, or some other thing... SO WHAT?!

    We've all been equal (EQUAL) before the law in the United States of America since the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Why is it always with such pants-filling amazement that radical Democrats behold that an American Black citizen has actually accomplished doing or being something...? Is THAT "racist"...? :confusion:
     
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    Scientific Fact that your DNA and the DNA of all those other "races" is only distinguishable with a blood test. All those other differences are the basis of racism and none of those differences maer.

    Even your example, which you're using to prove you're not using racism is racist,

    "Caucasoid" doesn't mean "white" it means comes from Europe or North Africa.

    When you talk about White people you use a word meaning location. When you talk about Black people you use a word meaning color.
     
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    FYI. . .the head scientist for the first Human Genome Project wrote a book summarizing their findings. In it he repeatedly asserts, in the strongest terms, that there's absolutely no basis for the concept of "race" based on human genetics. In fact, every human being currently living on this planet is a member of the species Homo Sapien Sapien. Visual differences in their physical appearance are all caused by local environments lived in for periods exceeding 20,000 years. Race is a human invention used for malevolent purposes. It doesn't exist in nature.
     
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    All those words... all those claims... and not one link or reference to any proof about "Russia, Russia, Russia" and Donald Trump offered in your rant at all. But I don't blame you, really. In the four long miserable years that radical Democrats have been accusing Donald Trump of being 'in bed' with Vladimir Putin, no one (NO ONE) has been able to produce any proof, either. Not even after years of sabotage, outright LIES, sham-'investigations', and the stupid, needless expenditure of tens of millions of taxpayer dollars.

    But don't worry... the "swamp" won! And nobody is happier about that than -- GUESS WHO...?

    [​IMG]. "Americans cannot think without these things anymore...."
     
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    Proof of russian collusian?
    Several voting irregularities and "typos" and human errors
    He has won a suit in Pennsylvania
    https://nypost.com/2020/11/12/trump...ictory-in-pennsylvania-lawsuit-over-voter-id/ so that means that not all "30" have been thrown out.
    Are Republicans only good when they support your agenda?
    You have your orange glasses on and can only see orange man bad. I have never once said he deserves the win. The only thing I support is investigations into fraus because of the millions of voting irregularities. Quit spreading opinion as fact. Your baseless claims are wrong and spreading lies.
     
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    the price of oil is determined by the international market. Some grades cost more to produce and refine and market price determines whether or not those sources are developed and produced.
     
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    Wrong

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/05/election-2020-judge-hands-trump-legal-win-in-pennsylvania-vote-count/

    Here is a link to poll watchers not being allowed proper access and you cant dispute it because it was a lawsuit won by the trump legal team. You arent just wrong your ying and spreading false propaganda.
     
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    The Mueller Report contained itemized lists of Russian interference with the election of 2016, & pointed to Trump as a willing associate. But as President, the FBI felt unable or unwilling to bring charges. I don't agree with that conclusion. The House impeached Trump, but the Senate chose to serve their Party over their country, & refused to convict Trump. So, we were stuck with him another couple of years. It's been a miserable time for most of us. I am excited to have a mentally stable President coming Jan 20.
     
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    "Race is a human invention used for malevolent purposes. It doesn't exist in nature." Let me guess -- you don't know even the FIRST thing about GENETICS... and maybe nothing worth mentioning about human physiology, either.

    Honestly, I don't even know where to begin with some of you. This is what happened when the United States let its pubic education systems go completely to sh!t starting forty years ago....

    Teaser: the latest genetic research holds that the highest average IQ among human races is not that of WHITE people at all -- no -- the highest average IQ's are found among those who are of the EAST-ASIAN race. Are you stunned? Study genetics (and human activity by the individual human races throughout history) and LEARN something!

    Oh, BTW, I'm just an average white guy, with a mere Bach. of SCIENCE degree with honors, from a top-15-rated university. Nothing terribly special.... But at least I learned something in my classes! What did some of you guys major in? Basket-weaving?! :hippie:
     
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    I'm not personally familiar with what Trump won in PA, but I suspect it has a ways to go in the courts before a final ruling. So, according to you, Trump has "won" one out of 30 cases. Great average. Trumpsters must feel good about Trump's legal acuity. Congrats.

    Trump is now trying to convince Michigan legislators to change the way they select Electors, so the voter's choice can be ignored & Electors can be selected who are loyal to him instead. That's pure voter fraud in action. Trump is trying to worm his way around voters & make their votes null & void. If he succeeds, how do you think that will affect American democracy? I warn you, when Trump negates my vote, he negates yours as well. Do you care?
     
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    I have no idea how many voting district offices authorized to count votes there are across this country. But I do know they number in the thousands. You found one that had a problem. Fine. Go to court & correct it. There are outliers for every human activity--exceptions to the rule. You found one. That doesn't tarnish all the others doing it right. And, you're talking one against tens of thousands. Are you so biased, or one sided, that you dare propose that one instance contaminates all the rest of the nation? That kind of thinking goes along with Trump. I hope you aren't that shallow.
     
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    Sorry to hear you feel so superior. But that's OK. It's a free country--for now. You're right, I'm not a geneticist. You're right, I have limited interest in the subject, but I've read a few things on occasion. Yes, I did know about the IQ studies & Asians. But I also know that all humans alive today are all part of Homo Sapien Sapien, which means that ultimately, genetically, we're all the same, at least enough to reproduce with one another, & that's a powerful point. The way racism is abused by most, it would be assumed that different races were equivalent to different species. Racism was invented to divide us & allow one "tribe" to dominate another, for no reason other than skin color, or some other physical trait. Under slavery in America, white men allowed their own children to be slaves under their dominion. Racism isn't just a dirty concept, it translates into some really negative behaviors. It should be abolished.
     

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