You Who Choose Permanent Death. Why Do You Do That?

Regarding my efforts: Thank you.
Regarding your comment: Amen and triple amen.

Best Regards.

JAG

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Regarding Adam and Eve:
This one just came out. And its gonna be a game changer.
It'll be all over the internet within a very few weeks.
I post this only FYI
In Quest of the Historical Adam: A Biblical and Scientific Exploration: Craig, William Lane: 9780802879110: Amazon.com: Books


Its not gonna be possible to ignore William Lane Craig's new book on Adam and Eve.

Best.

JAG

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Here are my thoughts:

According to researchers of religions there are more than 2000 Gods, but we know there is only one God is true, all others Gods are fake, so the chances that you believe in one true God are very slim.

It happens I am the lucky one, I believe in one true God AND I CAN PROVE IT.

Science does not confirm whether or not God exists, but there are LOGICAL indications that not only does God exist, but that the only true God and His name is... Flying Spaghetti Monster.

One of the hardest question facing religions is the problem of good and bad. Why perfect God created such imperfect world with earthquakes, floods, wars, tsumani, diseases, wives' headaches or the lack of parking in Manhattan? Why???
The only LOGICAL explanation is that only a drunk God could create such an imperfect world, and guess what? Flying Spaghetti Monster admits - His Noodiness created this world while being drunk.

If God created the world and people - he certainly knew human nature very well. Knowing human nature - how should paradise look to compensate humans for the earthly suffering?

What does a Jewish paradise look like? People can study Torah and eat kosher food - this is the clear evidence that the Jewish God does not know human nature.
What is a Christian paradise? People can sing hymns and pray - evidence that the Christian God does not know human nature.

What does a Muslim paradise look like? In the beginning it looks a little better, we are getting 72 virgins, but recently scientists found that Hadith was translated wrong - we are getting one 72-year-old virgin - evidence that Islamic God does not know human nature.
Now look on the Pastafarians paradise - volcanoes from which cold beer flows, stripper factories that produce beautiful strippers ready to fulfill every wish of a paradise resident, men, women even gays and lesbians. So which God knows humans nature?
What does real hell look like? Very similar to paradise, only the beer coming from the volcanoes is stale and the strippers are infected with venereal diseases.
Doesn't that mean that the FSM is the only true God who loves people and knows true human nature?

We Pastafarians even corrected science. According to science humans are evolved from primates, with whom we share 98% of humans DNA.
But we Pastafarians believe that humans are evolved from pirates - we share 99.999% DNA with pirates!

Another proof that Pastafarians knows science better than scientists is the theory about Global Warming. It has been proven that there is a close correlation between the existence of pirates and Global Warming - the fewer pirates, the more heat and the amount of CO2 does not matter. When Somali pirates appeared, it was noticed that the world suddenly turned cold.
Here is the graph which proves it:
https://churchoftheflyingspaghettimonsteraustralia.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/pchart1.jpg

So in the Name of the Pasta, and of the Sauce, and of the Holy Meatballs praise the only one and true God - Flying Spaghetti Monster,
R’amen!

 

That A/E happened not to sin does not make them "Perfect" - God did not create perfect beings .. the humans he created did not continue on in a state of sin-lessness - hence they had the propensity to sin .. your terminology is off.

That said .. if humans have the propensity to sin - and humans were created "Like US" - perhaps the Gods that created humans also have such propensity.

The rest of your post is more of a ramble -- not addressing any of the points in my post .. wandering down some path of which you provide no substantiation from the Bible -- sans some vague reference in Revelations which is not the right time period..

You can't view OT perspective from the perspective of the folks writing Revelations .. This not about what some dude writing in the first century AD thought .. nor what you think about those writings - this is about what Abe thought - and the what the Israelites thought the story of Adam and Eve meant.

This is made up story telling - having nothing to do with what Abe or the Israeites thought .. They would have called what you are saying complete nonsense .. bearing no relation to what they believed .. at all.

 

Why? Because I don't want eternal life, either way. When I die, I want it to be over. Period. Lights out. Curtains. The end....

 

Very interesting video. Genesis talks about creating the world in 6 days. It doesn't say consecutive days. And, the creation of man is figurative in the scriptures. However, I do believe Adam and Eve have belly buttons. And, they are from the atoms (dust) of the earth. Now, who were their parents? I also believe that they were in the Garden of Eden. For how long though? The Prophet Joseph Smith said that the Garden was located in Jackson County Missouri, not in the middle east. Creationists believe the flood of Noah broke up the continents. The depiction of where the Garden was in Genesis could have been rivers where America is now. Lots we don't know. But, I do believe Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden 6,000 years ago earth time. Their immortal bodies were changed to mortal bodies and also imperfect bodies subject to the changes in DNA and biological issues as well. So, I don't agree with Craig and Adam and Eve being Heidelbergenis animal...

 

They were immortal. Had they not have transgressed (this is the word and different from "sin") they would have lived forever. They were perfect beings. Your terminology is off for equating sin with transgression. And, I would disagree with you that they sinned eating the fruit. They actually kept the commandment to multiply and replenish the earth by partaking of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. See, they could not sin because they had no knowledge of the two choices. They knew no "joy" in their own posterity. They only could sin after being banished from the Garden and the presence of God. Sin requires the ability to choose between good and evil and choosing evil. Transgression does not.

Your idea that the Godhead has a propensity to sin is an interesting point. I would say no because of the change in the physical body of one who is resurrected. Perhaps something to do with the DNA or just the ability to always choose the right. But, if God is not perfect, then there is no hope for our eternal existence. So, there is more to sin than just the choices we make. It's the physical state we are in as well, mortality. See, Eve partook of the fruit because she had faith in God that it was necessary to have children. God does not make mistakes.

Moses wrote Genesis, not Abraham. As far as Jews and their beliefs today about Adam and Eve, pretty much the same as Christians. Some believe they existed and some don't. Same in the first century AD. Those writers in the first century AD were Jews. What are you talking about? Nothing apparently you know anything about. Prophets and Apostles didn't write with any perspectives. They wrote what the Lord impressed upon their minds and sometimes spoke with them directly. Your understanding is simply too secular in theology to fully understand. So, I'm trying to help with some simple logic and reasoning. I'm not looking for a fight.

 

Thanks for your thoughts and for your write up.

The religious reality of the world, 21st century, can be, for some people,
extremely confusing, even frustrating.

Here is the only question that really matters: Do you want help so that you can become a believer?

If the answer is no, then there isn't anything worth saying, left to say. You've made your choice.

If the answer is yes, then the help is easy to find.

To get the help all you have to do is ask God to help you amidst all the confusion and frustration
connected with "comparative religions" here in the 21st century madhouse. (It appears to be a
madhouse at times.)

Here is where help is located:
Pray this simple prayer from the heart:
"Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe
You died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my sins and invite You to
come into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You as my Lord and Savior.
In Your Name. Amen."

If you pray that simple prayer from the heart sincerely, then you will get help from the
Sovereign God to believe and you will get the eternal life promised in John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son that whoever believes
in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Give it some thought.
You, like all of us, have to have help in order to believe.
And no mere man can help you ~ only the Sovereign God can do that.
And all ya gotta do, is simply sincerely ask Him to help you ~ and He will.


Behold I stand at the door and knock, said the Lord Jesus, and if any
man will open the door, I will come in and have supper with him ~ by which
He meant, He will save you from the "perish" of John 3:16 ↑ AND
give you the gift of eternal life.

Best Regards.

JAG

 

OK .. so I followed your advice .. and .. it worked .. the Holy Spirit came to me and said - "Do not follow the evil ways of the fundamentalists .. as they worship a false God known as YHWH - the Most High is El - God of Abraham - God of the Israelites - God of Jesus and his counterpart Melchizedek.