Young Alberta teen among new COVID deaths reported Tuesday

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  1. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    Tragic, tragic story we all should read.

    CALGARY — Alberta has reported it’s youngest COVID-related death to date.

    Oh wait... what's this?

    Among the 33 new deaths reported over the Thanksgiving weekend was a 14-year-old who had “complex, pre-existing medical conditions.”

    Dr. Deena Hinshaw says the pre-existing conditions played a significant role in the teen’s death.


    The article continues with some scary, SCARY numbers (I guess it is Halloween season) but wait.... The story even gets better.

    Sister of dead 14-year-old boy blasts AHS for labelling his death COVID-related
    Referencing an Edmonton City News story mentioning her brother’s death, Spitzer confirmed in her Facebook post “the 14-year-old on the article is my brother.”


    “He died from Stage 4 brain cancer, not from covid. This is fake news,” said Spitzer in the post.


    “He was diagnosed in January 2021, and hospitalized in August. Two days before his death he was tested for covid and it turned out positive.”

    And this is one of MANY reasons why we do not trust the media or the government when it comes to information. They LIE to merely get a narrative established.

    COVID was no longer about COVID 15 minutes after the first case was found in North America! What is sad is that many on here will justify the government calling this young child's death as a COVID death as they also agree with the narrative.

     
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    Democrats crave it and the DNC overlords shovel it out, perfect match and no waste to clean up ;)
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think the perps lost control of the narrative months ago.

    Let's go Brandon! :)
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If COVID ended his life quicker why wouldn’t this be classified as a COVID — death even with preexisting conditions?
    How does that normally work? If someone has cancer and dies from a heart attack wouldn’t their death be listed as a heart attack?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems we lost control of educational attainment as well
    Alberta is in Canada
     
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    Canadians are Americans with a Canadian flag on their backpacks.
    Don't leave home without it. ;-)
     
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    COVID was not the primary cause of death.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you have a medical source showing this or just the Facebook post of the claimed sister’s opinion?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Canadians would likely disagree with this assessment
     
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    Do you have a medical source showing this or just a fake news source?

    Even the fake news source later states "Dr. Deena Hinshaw says the pre-existing conditions played a significant role in the teen’s death.".. Brain cancer is far more problematic than COVID for youths will ever be.
     
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    A medical source showing what?
    I didn’t make a medical claim.

    I agree that brain cancer is more problematic (I would argue for all age groups not just juveniles) but if a symptom of COVID caused the death — such as respiratory issues — it would be fair to say his death was caused by COVID (in my opinion) even with other comorbidities.

    The cancer likely lowered his immune response as well so it might also be fair to say the cancer was the cause as he might have beat COVID without it.
     
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    I would agree with all age groups as brain cancer is one of the more lethal cancers we deal with and among the rarest. If the cancer metastasized throughout the body, a common occurrence of brain cancer, then the child is terminal, regardless of what infections that they get at any point. Many times we stop treatment at this point and merely medicate them to be as comfortable as possible. The point being, a death from such a massive comorbidity such as brain cancer should be counted as a victim of cancer.

    We have many cancer patients that catch pneumonia and die from the disease, however their death is attributed to their battle with cancer. Not their battle with pneumonia. We log the data (in a clinical trial setting) that the patient passed of pneumonia as this is critical information in the fight against cancer, however the pneumonia is merely a product of the cancer, the cancer treatment and a weakened immune system.
     
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    Dictionary.

    primary cause of death Underlying–proximate cause of death
    McGraw-Hill Concise Dictionary of Modern Medicine. 2020
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I mean like a medical record.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That’s what I was looking for, thanks
    For example, a primary cause would be someone in whom COVID infection progresses to pneumonia, and this is the direct cause of death,” she explained. “A secondary cause could be a case where someone with a severe underlying illness, such as heart failure, gets COVID and the infection makes their pre-existing condition worse, leading to death.

    I want to assure everyone that these reviews are always done in cases of any uncertainty so the overall COVID numbers we have been reporting are as accurate as possible. However, it is clear that we need a different process for young people, and we have put that in place now.”​
    While I am glad they are making changes, why would doctors automatically report it as a COVID death? I know in the US it is due to money, do you know if Canadian hospitals have the same financial incentives? Looks as if medical reporting needs to be changed.
     
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    I honestly do not know if Canada has the same economic trigger for COVID patients as the US. I do hate that they automatically assigne COVID as cause of death on just about every patient that ends up testing positive for COVID. It truly exaggerates actual deaths due to COVID and I would consider it not only irresponsible, but done with malice intent to strike a nerve and move a narrative.

    I mean what is the end game here as data is really telling a different story than what they are saying? I think we've gone from political to something we, as a society, have never seen.

    Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States.
    Findings
    At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1). In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people. Notably, Israel with over 60% of their population fully vaccinated had the highest COVID-19 cases per 1 million people in the last 7 days. The lack of a meaningful association between percentage population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases is further exemplified, for instance, by comparison of Iceland and Portugal. Both countries have over 75% of their population fully vaccinated and have more COVID-19 cases per 1 million people than countries such as Vietnam and South Africa that have around 10% of their population fully vaccinated.
     
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    Why would health officials ever fudge the data on C19 deaths? ;-)

    "Colorado health officials on Friday changed how they count the number of people lost to the coronavirus outbreak in the state.
    As a result, the state's stated COVID-19 death toll dropped by nearly 300 people who had contracted the virus but died of other causes that may or may not have been related to infection."
    COLORADOAN, Did Colorado's coronavirus death toll really just drop by nearly 300? Here's what changed., By Eric Larsen, Editor, Fort Collins Coloradoan, May 16, 2020.
    https://www.coloradoan.com/story/ne...-coronavirus-deaths-state-counted/5198485002/
     
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    Is Canada now Colorado?

    I guess they both start with a C so good enough?
     
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    Well, we know that the data on C19 has been fudged in the US, ad there is no evidence that officials in Canada are more ethical than their counterparts in the US. Fake Science like Fake News is very common everywhere.

    "March 4 (Reuters) - New York Governor Andrew Cuomo's top advisers had successfully pushed the state's health officials to strip a public report of data that showed more nursing-home residents had died of COVID-19 than acknowledged by the administration, the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times reported on Thursday."
    REUTERS, Advisers of New York's Cuomo altered report on nursing home deaths -papers, Reporting by Kanishka Singh, 3/5/21.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ort-on-nursing-home-deaths-papers/ar-BB1eg98g
     
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    Trying to follow the logic here, let's say the child's death was exacerbated by COVID 19 but he has a deadly pre-existing condition, why would 'democrats' (specifically) want to exploit this? What would be the motive(s)?

    I'd say it was a accelerating or precipitating factor.
     
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    I've given up trying to explain DNC and leftist motives..
     
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    I understand.
     
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