Your Opinion, In 500 Words, What Happened To JFK?

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  1. maksimirkutsk

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    Soupnazi!
    It seems to me that you are not watched closely, otherwise you would have noticed that:

    Ruby don't look like a murderer.
    He's fat and old, and the murderer thin and young.
    He is bald, and the murderer has hair on his head.
    They have different cheek.
    Killer throws himself into the hands of the police and not even trying to run.

    Already after 3 seconds after the shot bald police put the murderer of the head of the sac.
    This means that the bald man the police knew that it would be murder .
    He tried to hide the killer's face.
    The guys from the "Explorer" hidden person of the murderer with the help of special effects.(4:25)

    Ruby had no motive to kill. But the killer, who remained at large, has a motive - money.

    Jack Rubinstein skin is darker than the skin of a killer, compared with the color of the collar.

    Collar Ruby higher than murderers collar.

    Jack Ruby specially filmed back one day before the murder, to make the same hairstyle killer. Why else would have to shoot on film unknown to anyone Ruby?

    In the end of the video shows that there was a lot of space, there were only a film crew and the police (although some say it a thousand people have seen how Ruby killed). This means that all the witnesses - dependent people.

    Jack Ruby did not kill Oswald. This means that the Dallas police lied. This means that the U.S. intelligence services have killed Oswald. This means that the U.S. intelligence services (the same people that we see in the video) killed John F. Kennedy. And they killed Oswald because they could not prove his guilt in court.
    It is incredible that two independent different gangs operate simultaneously: one - against Oswald, and the other - against Kennedy. Oswald and Kennedy were victims of the same criminal gang. The name of this group: the CIA or the FBI
     
  2. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    You need to learn some better English as half of what you claim is gibberish.

    The rest is false.

    The films show no such differences as you claim.

    It was ruby who shot Oswald and it was ruby in the film.

    He did not throw himself into anyone's arms they trapped him.

    His skin and hair and collar were all the same.

    He had motive and he did kill oswald.

    Sorry but your film fails in epic fashion
     
  3. Lesh

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    Nahhh that was lame.

    Although Ruby was well known to Dallas cops (they liked his topless bar) and seems to have had free reign in the Station.

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    Ruby killed him. The question is who let him in the building and why?
     
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    He was killed by two shooters, Oswald, and a unknown second shooter to make sure Oswald did not fail.

    The assassination was planned by elements of the military-industrial complex, CIA, and various organized crime syndicates.

    The CIA sent agent posing as Soviet spies to Oswald, who was a communist, to trick him into believing that the USSR was offering him asylum if he killed Kennedy. He agreed. When the job was finished, Oswald was left to take the fall, and to make sure he did not talk, the Mafia used one of their "wise guys", Jack Ruby, whose night club was a known mafia front, to kill him. A CIA sniper is also the mostly likely candidate for the second shooter.

    The two shooters theory is backed by the fact that the entrance wound is in the left temple of Kennedy's head. At the time of the killing shot, Oswald was behind and to the right of the President. This is where the "magic bullet" theory comes from, because to be the shooter, Oswald's bullet would have had to go past Kennedy, and do a 180 in order to hit him in the head. The "grassy knoll, where the second shooter is believed to have been, is in the right position to have had a clear shot at Kennedy at the moment the fatal shot was fired.

    Elements of the US military were kept on stand by in case of riots, which was never done before during presidential visits.

    As for the reasons for killing him, they are simple.
    The mafia wanted him out of the way because he and his brother were going after them hard because of their family's past mob connections.
    The Military-Industrial complex wanted to boost the US's involvement in Vietnam. Kennedy refused, wanting to avoid full military deployment.
     
  5. Soupnazi

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    All of this is fiction unsupported by any evidence.

    There was never an exit OR entrance wound on the left temple of Kennedy's head.

    There were no elements of the US military in Dallas placed on standby for riots.

    The rest is pure imagination

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    No one let him he walked down the garage ramp
     
  6. Bob0627

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    My opinion is that JFK was murdered as part of a conspiracy by rogue elements within the US government and that Oswald was a patsy. The lone shooter theory was a cover-up, it has an incredible amount of holes in it as well as impossibilities and conflicts. Who, what, where and how are unknown speculatory questions but there are multiple possibilities that include the likes of the CIA, the Secret Service, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon and/or George H. W. Bush. The US government story is as all major US government stories are, a work of fiction designed to cover-up and protect the real criminals.
     
  7. Lesh

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    You ought to read Ultimate Sacrifice by Lamar Waldron .
    His well documented book details the connections between rogue elements of the CIA and the Mafia...which were formed during the Cuba "escapades".
     
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    Old story and just a story.

    No one can point out any of these holes you refer to and the evidence proves Oswald shot Kennedy alone.
     
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    That's what the official story is. Mine is not a "story" though, it's a personal opinion.

    If no one can point out the holes, why is it millions of people are fully aware of them? Why is it millions haven't swallowed the official BS and the alleged "evidence"? Why is it there's ample evidence and simple logic that contradicts the official BS? Why did Congress officially determine there was a conspiracy after all? Who is lying? So just like 9/11, you bought it lock, stock and barrel so there's nothing more for you to see here. Is there a reason you need to defend these official stories so fervently and nearly daily?
     
  10. Lesh

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    Right...because the Warren Commission says so...isn't that your argument...always?
     
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    Your opinion is that a fictional story is true but it is still fiction.

    Millions of people mean nothing.

    Consensus does not equal truth.

    No one can point out any such holes as you claim. There are no such holes and that is simple fact.

    Not because anyone official says so but because the evidence says so.

    Congress reached no such conclusion and no evidence supports your delusion of 911 or Kennedy.

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    No the evidence proves it.

    The WC simply proved the case with evidence which you willfully ignore
     
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    And as always...your 'proof" is the widely discredited Warren Commission.

    you're not just dishonest...you're lazy
     
  13. Bob0627

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    What fictional story is that? I never mentioned any story. An opinion is not a fictional story, it's just an opinion.

    That's correct however it has nothing to do with my point. Millions of people don't ask questions from thin air.

    No it's just your wishful opinion, it's not a fact.

    Yeah the OFFICIAL evidence, the same one that keeps a ton of it classified for over 5 decades. The same OFFICIAL that keeps a ton of 9/11 evidence classified and only publicly releases cherry picked "evidence" to fit a propaganda story.

    I stand corrected, it was House Select Committee on Assassinations.

    The HSCA completed its investigation in 1978 and issued its final report the following year, concluding that Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Assassinations

    But you know that right? Oh wait no, I guess not.

    I don't have any "delusions" about either event. I have opinions about both, I thought I already said that. Are you delusional? Why the insults? Can't you discuss a subject without being insulting?
     
  14. Soupnazi

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    It has never been discredited.

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    There is no other evidence in either of these events.

    You began the insuting times so deal with it.

    Yes you are quite delusional. You cannot name a single hole which you claim exists.
     
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    If you say so.

    Coming from someone who's so married to US government fairy tales you need to defend them daily, I'll take that as a compliment.

    I already did but I can understand your failure to recognize them.

    I'm not here to try to convince you of anything, it's clearly obvious you're convinced that US government propaganda fairy tales are reality. Is that what you mean by delusional? Insults work both ways you know?
     
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    No you never have named any such holes period.

    You have never provided so much as a speck of evidence.

    Your only argument is an endless assertion that government lies.

    You cannot show evidence that is did in these specific cases however.
     
  17. Bob0627

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    Not very perceptive are you? The government itself creates those huge holes. Besides that many of its propaganda stories make little or no sense upon closer examination, it routinely classifies vast amounts of information. That's called lies by omission, the evidence is the government's admission that this is what it does, all the time. Perhaps you don't understand, that's ok though.
     
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    Far more perceptive than you are in fact.

    You still have refused to describe any such specific holes. You simply allude to some story you have heard and never offer evidence.

    Some information is classified yes but this is not a lie by omission as you claim there are good reasons for it.

    You have yet to offer any thing at all of substantive value and the evidence proves you wrong.'
     
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    Sorry regurgitated garbage, not worth discussing. I posted my opinion, that's it, take it or leave it, it's of no consequence to me.
     
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    And still no evidence or fact from you.

    I know it is an opinion but it is an opinion based on ignorance
     
  21. Bob0627

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    Here we go again with the insulting garbage. I'm done with you, we have nothing further to discuss.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    You have never discussed at all in any of the threads you post on.

    You only make blanket unsupported assertions and ignore any evidence to the contrary
     
  23. Bob0627

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    BIG HOLES - Here's a list (only a list) and it's only about documents (3,603 of them) and only what the US government admits to:

    It's aptly titled "JFK List of DENIED Docs - REDACTED" (emphasis mine)

    https://foiaonline.regulations.gov/...ord?objectId=090004d280af239b&fromSearch=true

    http://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/JFK-List-of-Denied-Docs-redacted.pdf

    Note that the list was first released on 1/21/16, 53 years after JFK was assassinated. For 9/11, I expect we won't be getting the "list" until after 2,051, if at all.
     
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    Yes none of which proves any conspiracy theory.
     
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    It's more than obvious proof of a US government conspiracy to deny Americans a ton of information about the JFK assassination. The same thing the US government does with 9/11. Americans have no way to determine the facts of the case(s) when they are denied the facts and just given a story based on cherry picked information that might fit an unverifiable government story. The denied information is now more than half a century old and ongoing. There is not one reasonable excuse to keep such information classified for such a period of time except to protect the real criminals. Why any genuine person with no agenda would defend such a criminal conspiracy is beyond me. Unreasonable classification breeds conspiracy theories, it always has and always will.
     

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