YouTube suspends One America News Network channel for violating COVID-19 misinformation policy

If the information is already in the public domain then it is NOT a crime and if it was - why was she not taken to court! After all Trump is not exactly shy of the legal system having been embroiled in over 3,000 lawsuits

 

Every dictator, every tyrant, every totalitarian explains censorship, suppression of information, "cancel" of thought-criminals etc by common good and oh so noble fight against disinformation. Every single one of them, without exceptions.

And every one of those who resort to censorship, suppression of information, cancelation of thought crimes ends up being viewed by the history as a dictator, a tyrant a totalitarian. Every single one of them, without exceptions.

But you knew that already I suppose, didn't you?

 

The conservative position is that money = speech. The free flow of ideas is alive and well. Ideas have never flowed more freely than today. I mean, look at us.

Don't like YouTube's practices? Buy them out and change them.

I'm not well versed on the rule, but the phenomenon is still new and changes can be made to law if wanted or needed. Until then, as long as everything is legit, I have no problem with any platform's practices. Too many out there to complain.

 

Let me get this straight.
A baker can refuse to make a wedding cake for a gay couple but a social media company can't refuse access to their services .

 

Exactly.

But, at the end of the days all of this FALSE (Twitter Bad/Facebook Bad/YouTube Bad) Chicken Little Routine boils down to THIS:

People whining because they didn't invent Twitter or Facebook or YouTube.

Sorry they missed the boat.

Ya Snooze, Ya Lose.

 

The baker was sued, fined, and beat to a pulp.

 

During times like this I ask myself how the left would handle a situation like this and here's what I think they'd do: They'd post a crazy video that just has to be deleted but the anchor would be a black guy. That's when the left would, you guessed it, cry racism and burn YT's headquarters to the ground.

 

They also seem to be forgetting the free market is working as intended. Don't like YouTube, change the channel. What they want is a Trump version of Pravda. Ain't gonna happen in this country.

 

The censorship of views that YouTube management disagrees with has been going on for awhile. Fiddling with the algorithms and suchlike - it's old news at this point. I think the fact that the left-leaning members here are cheering this on is a bit disturbing, but - *shrugs* The main problem was that the internet and stuff like YouTube was kinda founded as a place where everyone - but ESPECIALLY individuals - could post their own stuff from political screeds to cat videos. It was the wild west and people liked it. Everyone was welcome and anyone could post. In many ways, it was Jeffersonian Democracy at it's finest; a place where all speech was free speech and the rights of those whose opinions you vehemently disagreed were just as much as your own. It's actually what drew me to this forum - as much as I strongly disagreed with Jack Napier, the fact that we had a Nazi here - as well as many sympathizers was proof enough that this place really believed in freedom of speech and that anyone's opinions had a right to be heard. I think we had a Raelian here once too. The point being that even though there were people here whose opinions baffled me, I liked being able to hear them from the people themselves. I suspect that there's a great deal of LW-ers here who don't actually know Conservative beliefs, they only know what a fellow Liberal has TOLD them Conservative beliefs are. And it works both ways. That's why I have all sides of the political dial represented on my personal reading list for the news, along with all the funny stuff.

At some point we had a member - and I think it was @Daniel Light - respond to these sorts of things months ago with the comment that hey, if Conservatives are so fed up with it, they should start their own platforms - why aren't they? And sure enough it's begun with the previously mentioned Parler, et al. The funny thing about it is that one of my nephews who is extraordinarily liberal and posts on FB often - once he found out that Parler was a thing, started making FB posts about how terrible it was - rather ironic because up to that point I'd never heard of it as my social media footprint is almost nil. Also, putting in more hours at work because of distance learning isn't helping matters there either; I'm barely here anymore as it is But I digress. Anyway, half his posts are railing against Conservatives and then he rails against them starting their own social media outlets. This is - I'm not even sure how to describe it. Social Media Bullying? He's pissed about Conservatives on FB and then pissed that they're leaving FB? Damned if you do and damned if you don't - I mean, do you want them there or not?

I can't remember for sure who said it - maybe Reagan? - but it went something like this: "Liberals sure seem to love the idea or different opinions until they discover opinions that they disagree with." The fact that YouTube has done what it did proves that saying true. Sure, they are well within their rights to do so. Doesn't make it a good decision. I think we can all rest assured that - oh, let's say this site got bought out by a Conservative owner and alluvasudden several LW posters were permabanned and the rest of us know why - that these same LW posters who were all for the right of YouTube to do what it did because it's a private website would start screaming "Free Speech!" - and then run to another website. The result? The lack of LW thought would cause the quality and level of discussion here to decline - although it's sorta precarious as it is right now. The same would happen, BTW, if all the conservatives left as well. I like coming here and reading what people I disagree with have to think and say. The only LW-ers or RW-ers that should be permabanned - well, this should happen because they're trolls; not because of their political beliefs. I think we could probably identify ten posters here whose banning would move the needle here causing significant improvement in the quality of discussion here - but I digress again

This kind of short-term thinking on the part of YouTube management does not bode well for it. Sure, they can say that "Hey, it's just OANN!" - but everyone else is smart enough to know the writings on the wall. It's gonna hurt their business as Conservatives go elsewhere - but hey, it's their money to lose.

 

Oh really, do yo have evidence of this attack ?

 

Exactly.

And, you know how Parler has become sort of a Penal Colony for people banned from Twitter to spread their conspiracies?

I think there is that sort of Paralell Site for videos (for people banned from YouTube).

 

I think the argument isn't whether YT has a right to delete stuff, it's whether they should censor positions they don't like because it kinda goes against all that fairness, inclusive, open-mindedness, and moral crap the left belches. Do you remember when Facebook deleted and maybe even sent the poster to FB jail when he posted the Constitution and FB said it was racist? More recently, do you remember all the things that were deleted about hydroxychloriquine being effective because the media was told to say Trump was lying? Well here you go:

When the left is dead wrong on something and punishes people because of it, is it too much to expect an apology?

 

The attack was not physical, but I'm sure a lot of people wanted to beat them with their purses.

 

Because they haven’t published lies.
I challenge you to provide a link to a CNN story about Russian interference in the 2016 election that was factually incorrect.

 

Yep, and that's how free markets operate. Supply seeks demand. There's a place for OANN. Many places, including...you guessed it...OANN! Smfh. YouTube isn't one of those places.

 

Way overdue

 

sure they do ,they do not want to post false health claims about covid.... so if someone wants to do that, they get banned

I watch a lot of youtube, and every youtuber knows to watch themselves on this topic - this youtube group knew too, yet choose to do it repeatedly anyways

 

The list of lies by CNN and the rest of the commies is endless.


CNN’s Jake Tapper called out for ‘scores of lies peddled by and through’ Adam Schiff over Russiagate hoax

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/0...rough-adam-schiff-over-russiagate-hoax-918364

Beyond BuzzFeed: The 10 Worst, Most Embarrassing U.S. Media Failures on the Trump-Russia Story
https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20...-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/

Top 16 Russian Collusion Lies Spread By ‘Reputable’ Outlets
https://conservativedailypost.com/top-16-russian-collusion-lies-spread-by-reputable-outlets/

The List Of CNN’s Bungled Reporting Is A Sight To Behold
https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/31/cnn-list-bungled-reporting-fake-news/


CNN Was Used to Spread Lies And They're Just Fine with That
https://townhall.com/columnists/lar...-lies-and-theyre-just-fine-with-that-n2569307

 

I don't see a left-right divide here. And I don't do Facebook nor Twitter. YouTube is great, but I don't lose sleep over its policies.

Differing views are as American as Thanksgiving dinner. If you think YouTube is left, don't watch it. Your article is from the Examiner, a right of center publication. There's plenty of choices out there.

Those are reasonable suggestions, regardless of the intent of media companies, but what we're dealing with here is misinformation. Many see YouTube as performing a civic duty. I agree.

Left-right is fine. It's healthy and necessary for thriving democracy. This is misinformation, which should be opposed as it is a threat to thriving democracy.

 

cause that was fake new, even Dirty Donald did not choose hydroxychloriquine when he got the virus

 

YouTube is just like any other social media site that has a TOS agreement (including PF).

PF has Rules against Personal.Attacks, Insults, Etc.
If you violate those Rules you get banned.

YouTube also has Rules.
If you violate those Rules you get banned.

If people can't follow Rules they can go somewhere else, or invent their own social media site.
^Problem Solved.

 

Seems I've become a prophet of sorts:

Looks like the same thing I mentioned a short time ago regarding my nephew and now we got posters proving me right. Conservatives get banned from YouTube, they invent other social media sites. When they do, they're immediately described as members of a "penal colony". Condemn and ban them while they're there, they get driven out only to be condemned when they go. It's almost as if cause and effect doesn't exist in the LW mind. I know that can't be right, and yet ...

Basically, the LW is playing the "Damned if they do, damned if they don't," game - and is unable to see it. They don't want differing thoughts on their platforms - which hey, it's their right - but then also condemn these guys for making their own platforms. I'm pretty sure calling people on said platforms members of a "penal colony" can't be a compliment. I'm also pretty sure there's a term for what the LW is doing right now. I'll be kind and say that when you ban people for thinking differently than you do, well - the term "fascist" comes to mind. And like I said, it's their site, they can do what they please, even BE fascists - but they can't act as such and at the same time start talking about how progressive they are either, since it's obvious they ain't.

 

yes, and on youtube the same applies, no one, of any race, gender, religion or politics can give out false medical information that could harm people

 

i wonder if discussion boards could be held liable too. youtube has too much to lose to post harmful nonsense.

 

Sure we don't have to watch it but we also have the right to critique its anti-platform censor like actions as well.