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Zelensky says the timing of Ukraine's counteroffensive has been set

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Durandal, May 29, 2023.

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  1. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    https://twitter.com/EliBlueYellow/status/1663638314115641344?s=20
     
    zoom_copter66, May 30, 2023
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    They’ve already conducted a successful offensive operation in this war and have had 8+ months of training by western militaries and massive upgrading of weapons and vehicles such that I have no idea where you are getting this assumption they’ll fall flat on their face against a hugely depleted and degraded Russian military.

    Do Russian trenches kick that much ass??
     
    Tipper101, May 30, 2023
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  3. Durandal

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    But there are questions of what capabilities they had available to accomplish that and whether they even tried to.
     
    Durandal, May 30, 2023
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    You may call it any word you like, but the fact is the territories are not returned yet and if they will be - it is a big question that depends on many factors.
     
    vis, May 30, 2023
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    Yes, you are correct, Durandal.
     
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    What factors?.....what return?.....Stolen you mean.

    Why wouldn't they be liberated.....no one wants the orcs there.
     
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    Amount and type of weapons and human resources available in Ukraine for operation, same for Russia, motivation of people, and many other factors, including personal ones-for Putin and Zelenskii. By the way, your assumption that nuclear plant can be blown up only by Putin is wrong. Zelenskii can also do it in order to get NATO more involved in the conflict.
     
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    We'll see. Success for Ukraine at this step would be pushing back Russia to the borders that existed on the begining of the war in 2022. Anything else can not be called much success.
     
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    Orcs aren't motivated....POW vids by Zolkin basically indicate vatniks have no clue why they there.

    Putinka is a wanted war criminal ....every move he makes could be his last.

    ZPP can be blown up by the Kremlin chimp....it's in occupied territory. Stop listening to propaganda....you're slaves viska.
     
    zoom_copter66, May 31, 2023
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    The big picture is the further dissolution of the RuZZfascista Federation viska....Warsaw Pact,USSR.....now it's RF.

    Some advice.....move to Madagascar.
     
    zoom_copter66, May 31, 2023
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    I do not think you want a dissolution of a country that has a lot of nuclear weapons. You would like to play Russian roulette? I guess you know what is Russian roulette?
     
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    Yet....that's headed that way.

    Don't blame the messenger viska chew-vahk.....Mafiosi screwed the pooch royally here.....and now its payback time.
     
    zoom_copter66, May 31, 2023
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    Oh, I don't know about that. Any significant gain and any operation that weakens Russia's hold over Ukrainian territory, Russian war capacity, Russian popular support for the occupation and theft of territory, or even just reclaims a significant amount of territory without too high a cost on Ukraine's side would be a success. Considering their disadvantages in this conflict, even stopping the Russian advance has been a success.

    What sucks is that they and we all need time to get them equipped and prepared with significant replacement weapon systems and training to mount an effective counterattack. We're starting things now that should have been started before this invasion started.
     
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    I'm sure measures could be taken to secure those weapons if things get too chaotic.
     
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    ....yeah....its a game you can't play anymore as the Russians have run out of ammo....
     
    The Scotsman, May 31, 2023
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    ....oh god...please don't nuke us....oh my...oh heavens....what will we do!!!!

    the world will rain down the wrath of heaven upon every living and breathing Russian....NATO will nuke the fuking daylights out of you that's what....you wanna play that card over Ukraine....don't make me laugh....
     
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    I think we did take measures in the 90s when SU fell apart and the Russkis came begging to us cap in hand to feed them.
     
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    The occupied areas barely have 50% control.....insurgency is quite rampant....hundreds of Orc conscripts ending up dead or poisoned....bombs,targeting assassinations,etc.

    The phucking orcd need yo steal babies and youngsters to take to Mafialand....they can't breed on their own, so they need to brainwash and propandize young ones to be spies and assasins.
     
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    You are totally wrong.
     
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    You underestimate Russian politians. As they say - he laughs best who laughs last.
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    Is that why Iran delivers Shaheed drones to buzz Ukrainian towns.....Chinos give token support....and NK supplies 60+ yr old ammo?
     
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    I am not so optimistic.
     
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    ....politicians...???....there are no Russian politicians just little nodding donkeys.....
     
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    Why do you narrow the definition of weapons to only drones?
     
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    ...well true...you can shove a cork up your arse and fart....
     
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