'Zombie' star survived going supernova.

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "When most stars go supernova, they die in a single blast, but astronomers have found a star that survived not one, but five separate explosions." (story is complete with 'artwork')

    Somebody please tell the astrophysicists - only animal and vegetable materials are 'born' and 'die', minerals 'corrode'. I thought everybody knew that! :wall:

    'Zombie star' :roll: - it's like talking to children!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41916738
     
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    reallybigjohnson Banned

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    Stars can live and die. When I was growing up are pastor said that supernovas were angel farts.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :roll: Read my lips - stars are mineral? They don't live nor do they don't die . . . just like all other minerals they corrode?? :wall:
     
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    Great picture show in the link.

    Too bad they used language that offends I guess. (?)
     
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    I'm embarrassed to say I thought this thread was about one of the stars of iZombie having a temper tantrum.
     
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    You should write the President of Science and complain!
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For all the good that would do? It's a world-wide industry, and highly lucrative for those who 'work' in it, so I don't blame them, I blame those who are obliging them to keep spewing out irrelevant and unprovable crap which I can't avoid seeing, and it's then that I get the uncontrollable urge to let them know that there's someone 'out here' who's smart enough to see what they're up to, even if nobody else can. :cool:
     
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    Many people enjoy watching sports, which is an utterly useless activity aside from its entertainment value. Literature, painting or music fall into a similar category. While they may have deep meaning to some, their value lies purely in the eye of the beholder. Art may persist for a long time and may in some cases even influence society at large, but it has not changed everyday life to the extent science has.

    It's a common misconception that everything a scientist does should have some relevant practical use. Just because science has fundamentally changed our lives, doesn't mean that all of science has an obligation to produce useful results. I don't see a reason why we should force scientists to focus only on work of great practical importance, as long as we don't expect the same from athletes, musicians or everyone else for that matter. In my humble opinion, it is perfectly legitimate to do science out of pure curiosity or for entertainment purposes.
     
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    “Not only is the universe stranger than we imagine—it is stranger than we can imagine.” ~ Arthur Stanley Eddington

    Just another of those stranger things in our universe that gives us something new to grapple with and try to comprehend.
     
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    :roflol: Thank you for the laugh today, I needed it. You didn't comment on my not-so-subtle joke about the President of Science, which made me a little sad, but then I realized that maybe you just didn't get it. On the bright side, your comment on science being "highly lucrative" was hilarious! And of course your blast against science because an article posted by the BBC called a star a "zombie" and said most stars "die", even though in the actual paper published in Nature never mentioned the words "zombie" nor "die", was the icing on the cake. Now, just to let you know, so you don't continue to embarrass yourself, "die" can be used when talking about energy, such as a battery dying or a fire dying, so it makes sense to say a star "dies" when it loses all its energy. Again, thank you for the laughs.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll tell you what - you laugh at my scepticism and I'll wonder at your childlike gullibility? After all it's your self-respect which is on the line here, not mine.
     
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    I am very sceptical... of the motivation for your scepticism. I don't think that you are sceptical for the sake of truth. You don't address any of my points. If you disagree with my points, why don't you say so and give me reason why you disagree, but if you do agree with all my points, then admit you were wrong.
     
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    I didn't address your 'President of Science' because it wasn't worth wasting my time on; and how could I discuss something which I've already declared as being against the recognized rules of nature and biological entities' life cycles, viz. that unlike animal and vegetable, mineral-based entities corrode, therefore are not 'born' nor do they 'die'? In other words they merely exist until they exist no longer? So I just thought 'Why bother arguing with someone with such a closed mind, so let's check out some other threads.', which is what I did? Glad I gave you some laughs though!!
     
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    Let's just consider a fire in the fireplace for a moment. It will burn until it has consumed the log and reproduce itself every time you toss a new log onto it. It will expand or contract depending on it's food source and is easily killed when suffocated. The fire can be Blue, White, Orange, Yellow, Red, even purple....it can be all at once. It dances with the wind and excretes smelly fog flatulence.
    The fire uses and creates energy to live and will eat until it dies.....Is It Alive?
     
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    Generally living things have to have some sort of organization, which would disqualify fire.
     

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