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Old 07-09-2006, 05:44 AM
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WASHINGTON, July 8 — In a sharply worded letter to President Bush in May, an important Congressional ally charged that the administration might have violated the law by failing to inform Congress of some secret intelligence programs and risked losing Republican support on national security matters.
The letter from Representative Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, did not specify the intelligence activities that he believed had been hidden from Congress.
But Mr. Hoekstra, who was briefed on and supported the National Security Agency's domestic surveillance program and the Treasury Department's tracking of international banking transactions, clearly was referring to programs that have not been publicly revealed. (...)
Recently, after the harsh criticism from Mr. Hoekstra, intelligence officials have appeared at two closed committee briefings to answer questions from the chairman and other members. The briefings appear to have eased but not erased the concerns of Mr. Hoekstra and other lawmakers about whether the administration is sharing information on all of its intelligence operations.
"I have learned of some alleged intelligence community activities about which our committee has not been briefed," Mr. Hoesktra wrote. "If these allegations are true, they may represent a breach of responsibility by the administration, a violation of the law, and, just as importantly, a direct affront to me and the members of this committee who have so ardently supported efforts to collect information on our enemies." (...)
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Old 07-09-2006, 06:43 AM
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"Representative Peter Hoekstra of Michigan"

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Hoekstra is free to say whatever he believes. But it sounds more like his letter is asking questions. Until the administration responds, we don't know if what Hoekstra "heard" is true, now do we???

This is unlike the Democrats who will totally cut off any of their own who question their leaders or who go against their leaders' views. As in.....Joseph Lieberman.
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Hoekstra is free to say whatever he believes. But it sounds more like his letter is asking questions. Until the administration responds, we don't know if what Hoekstra "heard" is true, now do we???

This is unlike the Democrats who will totally cut off any of their own who question their leaders or who go against their leaders' views. As in.....Joseph Lieberman.
"Until the Administration responds....."

Ha ha ha ha (ROFL, laughing so hard it hurts).

Seems to me, it'll be a cold day in hell before that happens.

After all, responding to Congressional inquiries doesn't seem to be the administration's strong suit.
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the Rep. said this moring his info was from a "whistle blower" inside the intelligence community.

so much for "just asking questions"

I know, we'll wait to what the memo tells you to tell us - we're waiting.
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"...I am convinced that this politicization was underway well before Porter Goss became the director. In fact, I have been long concerned that a strong and well-positioned group within the agency intentionally undermined the administration and its policies. This argument is supported by the Ambassador Wilson/Valerie Plame events, as well as by the string of unauthorized disclosures from an organization that prides itself with being able to keep secrets. I have come to the belief that, despite his service to the DO, Mr. Kappes may have been part of this group. I must take note when my Democratic colleagues - those who vehemently denounced and publicly attacked the strong choice of Porter Goss as Director - now publicly support Mr. Kappes return..."

I like the way he thinks. If the Dems are for somebody, there must be something wrong with him.
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WASHINGTON, July 8 — In a sharply worded letter to President Bush in May, an important Congressional ally charged that the administration might have violated the law by failing to inform Congress of some secret intelligence programs and risked losing Republican support on national security matters.
The letter from Representative Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, did not specify the intelligence activities that he believed had been hidden from Congress.
But Mr. Hoekstra, who was briefed on and supported the National Security Agency's domestic surveillance program and the Treasury Department's tracking of international banking transactions, clearly was referring to programs that have not been publicly revealed. (...)
Recently, after the harsh criticism from Mr. Hoekstra, intelligence officials have appeared at two closed committee briefings to answer questions from the chairman and other members. The briefings appear to have eased but not erased the concerns of Mr. Hoekstra and other lawmakers about whether the administration is sharing information on all of its intelligence operations.
"I have learned of some alleged intelligence community activities about which our committee has not been briefed," Mr. Hoesktra wrote. "If these allegations are true, they may represent a breach of responsibility by the administration, a violation of the law[/b], and, just as importantly, a direct affront to me and the members of this committee who have so ardently supported efforts to collect information on our enemies." (...)
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WASHINGTON, July 8 — In a sharply worded letter to President Bush in May, an important Congressional ally charged that the administration might have violated the law by failing to inform Congress of some secret intelligence programs and risked losing Republican support on national security matters.
The letter from Representative Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, did not specify the intelligence activities that he believed had been hidden from Congress.
But Mr. Hoekstra, who was briefed on and supported the National Security Agency's domestic surveillance program and the Treasury Department's tracking of international banking transactions, clearly was referring to programs that have not been publicly revealed. (...)
Recently, after the harsh criticism from Mr. Hoekstra, intelligence officials have appeared at two closed committee briefings to answer questions from the chairman and other members. The briefings appear to have eased but not erased the concerns of Mr. Hoekstra and other lawmakers about whether the administration is sharing information on all of its intelligence operations.
"I have learned of some alleged intelligence community activities about which our committee has not been briefed," Mr. Hoesktra wrote. "If these allegations are true, they may represent a breach of responsibility by the administration, a violation of the law[/b], and, just as importantly, a direct affront to me and the members of this committee who have so ardently supported efforts to collect information on our enemies." (...)
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believed had been hidden from Congress.
But Mr. Hoekstra, who was briefed on and supported the National Security Agency's domestic surveillance program and the Treasury Department's tracking of international banking transactions, clearly was referring to programs that have not been publicly revealed

If the Chair of the House Intel Committee didn't know about it, that means no one in the House was briefed. This is a violation of Constitutional law.

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