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Old 01-26-2008, 02:16 PM
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DuH2 as the US did have a little plot going against Chavez and the US did back an anti Chavez movement in Venezuela, it appears that Chavez does have more veracity than the US on the subject of US plots.

US plots in the South Americas are a fairly frequent occurrence. In fact it is not unknown for the US to use money set aside by congress for South American adventures, ask Olly North about that one.
Ak I read the links you provided, and other than professor McSherry 'suggesting' US involvement, do you have any other proof other than the empty word of the Coke addict Chavez? You must find better heroes than a crack head

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/amer...ry/386592.html

Chávez says he chews coca daily
Analysts said Chávez's comments before National Assembly amounted to a dangerous endorsement and might be an admission of an illegal act.
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Old 01-26-2008, 03:08 PM
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And you think that you show no left or right wing bias, no authoritarian anarchic leanings SF????
Oh no, I'm definitely a proud conservative Republican. If I gave you any hint of anything other than that I apologize. Please feel free to quote me if I did.

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PS I've never read anything by Greg Palast, but I'm I will now that you have so highly recommended him. Thank you SF, Democracy and Regulation looks quite entertaining.
You cited him in your previous post (at 5:17 a.m.) that I referenced. I was under the impression you knew of which you were talking. My apologies again for making an erroneous assumption.

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But you ad Hominem doesn't really get around to answering the substance of the posting about US proven track record in plotting in the South Americas. Do you have any other entertaining ways of diverting attention from the substance or will you answer?
Substance? You mean this is a thread about South American coup attempts?

My bad. I thought it was about Chavez accusing Columbia of being aggressive.

Once again I apologize.
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Old 01-26-2008, 04:14 PM
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Oh no, I'm definitely a proud conservative Republican. If I gave you any hint of anything other than that I apologize. Please feel free to quote me if I did.
You have never posted anything that would give me cause to believe that your political leanings was anything other that right wing authoritarian.

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You cited him in your previous post (at 5:17 a.m.) that I referenced. I was under the impression you knew of which you were talking. My apologies again for making an erroneous assumption.
One citing does not make a God. I've cited Benny Morris many times yet hold Benny Morris in contempt. I do find Ilan Pappe or Avi Shlaim more to my taste.

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Substance? You mean this is a thread about South American coup attempts?
Yes the posting about US plots in the South Americas.

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My bad. I thought it was about Chavez accusing Columbia of being aggressive.
With US backing. Which given the past performance of the US is not beyond the realms of probability.

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For what? For being a "proud conservative Republican". Why do you feel the need to apologise for that?
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Old 01-26-2008, 05:57 PM
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You have never posted anything that would give me cause to believe that your political leanings was anything other that right wing authoritarian.
Whew! For a minute there I thought you'd missed my intent.

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One citing does not make a God. I've cited Benny Morris many times yet hold Benny Morris in contempt. I do find Ilan Pappe or Avi Shlaim more to my taste.
Your "taste" is illustrative of a lack thereof in my opinion. I get the impression you're the most virulently anti-American user on this site... aside from Eirgo Sod that is.

I've come to the conclusion that as long as the source puts America in the worst light possible do you consider its veracity. Otherwise, it's completely beneath your contempt.

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Yes the posting about US plots in the South Americas.
Venezuela, to be specific. Hugo makes many accusations without proof as of yet. He's "busy making his case," which translates to me as manufacturing evidence that you're eager enough to gobble down because after all... it suits your "taste."

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With US backing. Which given the past performance of the US is not beyond the realms of probability.
No, it's not beyond the realms of probability. However, if done by us... Hugo wouldn't be able to tell. If we truly wanted the little cokehead gone, he'd already be gone... and done in such a way that the world wouldn't think twice that it was by natural causes, or a series of unfortunate events out of our control.

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For what? For being a "proud conservative Republican". Why do you feel the need to apologise for that?
I don't. I was being sarcastic. Apparently you missed that.

Would it help if I were more direct with you? Maybe it would be helpful for you if I used labels... here, let me try this:

[sarcasm] Gee wiz ashley, you're so smart! [/sarcasm]

There, how's that?
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Old 01-27-2008, 01:13 PM
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Whew! For a minute there I thought you'd missed my intent.
Hardly.

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Your "taste" is illustrative of a lack thereof in my opinion. I get the impression you're the most virulently anti-American user on this site... aside from Eirgo Sod that is.
[mockery]You do say some of the nicest things SF, I'm touched. I didn't think I rated that high. I feel quite honoured.[sarcasm][/sarcasm][mockery]

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I've come to the conclusion that as long as the source puts America in the worst light possible do you consider its veracity. Otherwise, it's completely beneath your contempt.
[satire]No, I have to search for just the right bits[/satire], [drama]sometimes it takes as long as 5 to 10 minutes.[/drama]

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Venezuela, to be specific. Hugo makes many accusations without proof as of yet. He's "busy making his case," which translates to me as manufacturing evidence that you're eager enough to gobble down because after all... it suits your "taste."
[irony]Hugo only needs to look back a few, I was going to say years but really it's only months, to find examples of US plotting. It is the US that needs to prove their innocence due to the three strikes and your out rule.[/irony]

It would suit my taste better if the US decided to stopped using terrorism to interfere in the domestic politics of other countries.

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No, it's not beyond the realms of probability. However, if done by us... Hugo wouldn't be able to tell. If we truly wanted the little cokehead gone, he'd already be gone... and done in such a way that the world wouldn't think twice that it was by natural causes, or a series of unfortunate events out of our control.
[farce]Yep the US tried that in Cuba, now that was a farce. Have you ever watched "Company Man", The Cuba farce has even been turned into a comedy film.[/farce]

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I don't. I was being sarcastic. Apparently you missed that.

Would it help if I were more direct with you? Maybe it would be helpful for you if I used labels... here, let me try this:

[sarcasm] Gee wiz ashley, you're so smart! [/sarcasm]

There, how's that?
[mockery]I was just returning the favour, [sarcasm]but obviously it went right over your head.[/sarcasm][/mockery]

Just in case you missed the sarcasm in the last bit, your avatars an eagle.

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Old 01-27-2008, 01:21 PM
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Ak I read the links you provided, and other than professor McSherry 'suggesting' US involvement, do you have any other proof other than the empty word of the Coke addict Chavez? You must find better heroes than a crack head

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/amer...ry/386592.html

Chávez says he chews coca daily
Analysts said Chávez's comments before National Assembly amounted to a dangerous endorsement and might be an admission of an illegal act.
Previous behaviour, Bush saying he was going to restart terrorist attacks on any foreign government that he didn't like, the normal run of the mill. The US has used up its three strikes long ago. The US now has to prove a negative, unfortunate but that's what happens to countries that support terrorism.

PS I find it rather strange that you should assume that any act that is illegal in the US is illegal in the rest of the world.

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Do you take yourself to be credible?
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Do you take yourself to be credible?
More to the point, does the US government?
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