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But you have this ticking time bomb scenario playing out. If we torture this guy, he'll give us information to find the bomb and disarm it and then we'll save all the kiddies in the school within mere seconds. It isn't like that at all.

Torturing largely is ineffective. Even if it was effective, the scenario of saving millions of lives still wouldn't pan out.
Plain old “torture” does not yield good results. But calculated and well developed methods of interrogation do yield good results. You just took one of the tools in that developed method away, making it much more difficult for them to do their jobs.
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Plain old “torture” does not yield good results. But calculated and well developed methods of interrogation do yield good results. You just took one of the tools in that developed method away, making it much more difficult for them to do their jobs.
Or they could just use the billions of dollars and high tech technology at their disposal any time they wish.
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They do use it. That does not mean that you no longer need to interrogate people. The best and most reliable source of information is often that collected in that fashion.
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They do use it. That does not mean that you no longer need to interrogate people. The best and most reliable source of information is often that collected in that fashion.
I never said I was against interrogation. Interrogation is fine.

Torture is not.
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waterboarding is not torture ,cutting off someones head because they are a western journalist is
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waterboarding is not torture ,cutting off someones head because they are a western journalist is
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And waterboarding is definitely torture.
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No, that would be murder.

And waterboarding is definitely torture.
can not change my mind , I believe it is not torture Red , I also believe it should very sparingly , like as a last resort, as for cutting someones head off it was torture until he died I listened to it over and over I Still hear the screams he was in terrible pain and scared
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can not change my mind
oh yes I can, I will torture you sparingly of course
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oh yes I can, I will torture you sparingly of course
I am into it please send the misses though
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