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Calling Grace She'll Never Fall Again Love Remains In Her Calling Grace
She Will Rise Again Sacrifice The Saints Still Love Remains
I'm A Tart! What! You Want Some Of This!
I would Tarja...among other things...

To bad really.

Its not like they have not already taken so many tools away. Next we are going to be baking cookies for em.

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Jones:- We're going to teach them climbing, abseiling, canoeing, archery, shooting...

Interviewer:- Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible isn't it?

Jones:- I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the range.

Interviewer:- Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?
You're equipping them to become violent killers.

Jones:- Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute but you're not one are you?

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Calling Grace She'll Never Fall Again Love Remains In Her Calling Grace
She Will Rise Again Sacrifice The Saints Still Love Remains
I'm A Tart! What! You Want Some Of This!
I would Tarja...among other things...

Your definition of torture must be pretty lax.

But anyway. Real torture does not yield reliable results. That is why the previous plan was instituted. Because it did. I wonder what they are substituting it with.

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Jones:- We're going to teach them climbing, abseiling, canoeing, archery, shooting...

Interviewer:- Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible isn't it?

Jones:- I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the range.

Interviewer:- Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?
You're equipping them to become violent killers.

Jones:- Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute but you're not one are you?

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Calling Grace She'll Never Fall Again Love Remains In Her Calling Grace
She Will Rise Again Sacrifice The Saints Still Love Remains
I'm A Tart! What! You Want Some Of This!
I would Tarja...among other things...

First off they do not offer reliable results. They mess up your mind, and often you do not know fantasy from reality. And the 3GC forbids it as well as U.S. law.

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Jones:- We're going to teach them climbing, abseiling, canoeing, archery, shooting...

Interviewer:- Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible isn't it?

Jones:- I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the range.

Interviewer:- Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?
You're equipping them to become violent killers.

Jones:- Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute but you're not one are you?

Oh really????? Again, FAMILY JEWELS. The CIA (the torturers in question) have admitted to repeatedly, egregiously breaking laws concerning American citizens (and there was NO accountability). The amount of trust you have in the CIA is beyond niave. It is foolish. Who holds a secret agency accountable? The president? Get real.

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War is Peace.
Freedom is Slavery.
Ignorance is Strength.

It's a post 9/11 world.

I don't see why we should follow the rules of war against an enemy that never agreed to follow nor makes any attempt to follow those rules. They torture our troops regardless and their entire war strategy is built on not only violating these laws but taking advantage of the fact that we foolishly follow them and the insane liberals talk about damaging our image with maniacs. Its really bizarre.

I would be utterly proud to torture UBL, AlZawahiri, or ANY of their islamomoron followers and it would be far worse than simulated drowning. I'll start by cutting off their balls and feeding it to them.

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Qur'an:8:39 Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
Qur'an:8:67 It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.
Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

Technically we do not have to. Kind of.


If a state or entity is in conflict with us and does not stand by the 3GC or Hague conventions, and is not signatory to those conventions, then we do not have to abide by them either. But if something is against U.S. Law, then we can not no matter what they do.

All part of trying to be the good guys I guess.

Fifth, we all know that the CIA has done some shady things in the past. But please do not make blanket accusations without supporting documentation.

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Jones:- We're going to teach them climbing, abseiling, canoeing, archery, shooting...

Interviewer:- Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible isn't it?

Jones:- I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the range.

Interviewer:- Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?
You're equipping them to become violent killers.

Jones:- Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute but you're not one are you?

You reason like this is the last war that will ever be fought. The United States is a principled nation. There is value in creating a contrast between terroristic force and principled force-- especially when you are fighting over ideas, their implementation, and lives that will be lived according to those ideas. As contrived and perverted as the statement has become, we are trying to win and keep the hearts and minds of people in these theatres. They are the ones who chop people's heads off, not us, and it feels good to say it. They chop people's heads off, we respond by trying to hook their water up, building bridges, occasionally killing them humanely and quickly with bombs and bullets like a good civilized country. Do you mean to say that torturing them is supposed to help us make a case for why our way is better? Because at the end of the day, it's better not to give them any ammunition that they can use against us for the people's hearts and minds.

Your logic also fails to recognize the importance of allies, economic and strategic. Who cares what the maniacs think? I care about what the civilized world thinks because those are the people we need to believe in our principles. We have to be able to make our case there, and if we start chopping people's heads off and making videos about it, we're done.

This war will end; another will begin. It's better to hold the moral high ground in this argument every time. If I were you, I'd re-examine my principles.

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