Clinton's torture program was the preface to Bush's program to gather vital intelligence to prevent terror attacks!

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/extraor...s20051206.html
Fact Sheet: Extraordinary Rendition (12/6/2005)

EXTRAORDINARY RENDITION
> Mohamed et al. v. Jeppesen Dataplan, Inc.
> El-Masri v. Tenet

Beginning in the early 1990s and continuing to this day, the Central Intelligence Agency, together with other U.S. government agencies, has utilized an intelligence-gathering program involving the transfer of foreign nationals suspected of involvement in terrorism to detention and interrogation in countries where -- in the CIA's view -- federal and international legal safeguards do not apply. Suspects are detained and interrogated either by U.S. personnel at U.S.-run detention facilities outside U.S. sovereign territory or, alternatively, are handed over to the custody of foreign agents for interrogation. In both instances, interrogation methods are employed that do not comport with federal and internationally recognized standards. This program is commonly known as "extraordinary rendition."

The current policy traces its roots to the administration of former President Bill Clinton.
Foreign nationals suspected of terrorism have been transported to detention and interrogation facilities in Jordan, Iraq, Egypt, Diego Garcia, Afghanistan, Guantánamo, and elsewhere. In the words of former CIA agent Robert Baer: "If you want a serious interrogation, you send a prisoner to Jordan. If you want them to be tortured, you send them to Syria. If you want someone to disappear -- never to see them again -- you send them to Egypt."

Administration officials, backed by Department of Justice legal memoranda, have consistently advanced the position that foreign nationals held at such facilities, outside U.S. sovereign territory, are unprotected by federal or international laws. Thus, the rendition program has allowed agents of the United States to detain foreign nationals without any legal process and, primarily through counterparts in foreign intelligence agencies, to employ brutal interrogation methods that would be impermissible under federal or international law, as a means of obtaining information from suspects.

Interesting article Wow coming straight from the ACLU. Agents of America apprehended "foreign nationals" suspected of involvement in terrorism to exert interrogation methods without legal process thus violating international law and the Constitution and prohibited by the United Nations Convention Against Torture. No Liberal outrage??

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"The budget should be balanced; the treasury should be refilled; public debt should be reduced; and the arrogance of public officials should be controlled." -Cicero. 106-43 B.C.

Ironically, Obama is continuing the same program.

No irony, just SOP for American gov't.

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i love this quote.
isnt robert baer the man 'bob' from Syriana was based on?

Of course this stuff happened. And you can be sure similar things have happened under other Presidents in times of war. That there were people who said Bush was the first to engage in this makes me wonder if it's babes in the woods or just plain old dishonesty.

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Obama The Naive: “To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist.’’ The Iranian response? “The Great Satan now has a black face.’’

Rendition was never a problem for me.. thats what allies are for, to do the dirty wet work.

The problem was GWB brought the subjects to US territory and had Americans do the torturing.

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"When I'm in command, every mission is a suicide mission!" -Capt. Zapp Branigan
"Did you know that Republicans are stupid and evil?" -Bill O'Reilly, Feb 2010

You have no problem with US troops kidnapping and detaining civilians without a warrant, knowing they will be tortured in a foreign Gulag?

Plausable Deniability ...it's how the game was played.

The real problem began once the USA brought those prisoners to US territory and Americans started doing the wet work. All kinds of legal problems and negative propaganda came with it.

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The United Church of the Latter Day Tangential Tarts
"When I'm in command, every mission is a suicide mission!" -Capt. Zapp Branigan
"Did you know that Republicans are stupid and evil?" -Bill O'Reilly, Feb 2010

Really?

Clinton was the first one to do it and I do not recall his supporters crying about it.