what special powers do you possess which allows you to know what others appreciate, think, believe even before they have even expressed it?

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Oh, I can just tell that he appreciates you jumping in and disrupting his thread.

I think the whole idea of separation of church and state arose from a battle in Europe that went on for centuries. (See Investiture Controversy). Probably the stickiest part of the controversy involved who would have the authority to collect taxes from the the population--the church or the government. This contributed significantly to recurring "religious" wars, including the Protestant Revolt. Many of the original european settlers of North America came here to get away from all the fighting. Obviously, they felt the government should have the authority, and that the church should focus on spritual matters.

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Well, let me try to clarify.

I believe that the government should have no role in the affairs of religious organizations, with the exception of the protection of minors or other civil rights violations. Neither should the government fund said organizations in any way, nor show preference toward any religion. I believe the United States is a secular republic, not a Christian nation. We are a nation made up predominately of one variety or another of Christians with other beliefs present, but none have the right to use the power of the state to impose their will on others, nor to levy taxes to support their religion. President Kennedy said it well:

"I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute--where no Catholic prelate would tell the President (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote--where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference--and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the President who might appoint him or the people who might elect him."

Does that help?

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Thank you.



OK.


So the government can give money to any organization as long as it isn't religious?

Our Founding Fathers might disagree with you.

So that makes us a Christian nation.

OK.

Are you saying that Protestant ministers do not have First Amendment Rights which protect their freedom of speech?



So it's OK to fund non religious schools just not 'church schools'?

Yes, it's a start.

Thanks.

Do you live near Mork and Mindy?

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Justabubba: "that would include everyone"

http://politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=27847

I think Mork went back to Ork.

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And I haven't seen Mindy either. Nanoo nanoo!

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"Anthony, did you do something to Bill Soams' dog, son?"

Bill Sloam's Dog... welcome to our board. I'm sorry that your first thread turned into a battleground. Perhaps they missed the whole spirit of what this thread is all about and don't care.

I look forward to many posts and engaged debate from you.

Happy posting!

By the way... does your owner know you have use of his computer? Also, how do you type with your paws? I saw you had a rather intense stare... kinda' reminds me of... well, ME.

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Thanks Senax. I didn't expect the reaction on this thread, but hey, I'm tough. Like your stare BTW.

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