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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtFoPCKVp-8&feature=related"]YouTube - ‪Bullet holes in the limousine and extra bullets in Dealey Plaza (Extended English Version)‬‏[/ame]
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    I've always thought there was something more to the story. They really didn't do a very good investigation, and what they did do was supressed by the Secret Service and FBI.

    I always thgouht that JFK was shot from the front, that's just what it looks like on the zfilm, but everything I've ever seen about it shows he was shot from behind.

    I'd love to see the government actually publish what they know about the incident. It's been 50 years, for God's sake. What's the point of keeping it all secret now?

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    To answer your question, why still keep it quiet? George Bush. He was the head of the CIA as well as being a vice-president and President. In 1963, he was a low level operative somewhere between the MOB and CIA (one and the same)

    He is reported to have been in Dealey Plaza on the day of the shooting, and Nixon was close by as well. Nixon was also a foot soldier for powerful people at that time.








    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulYIT84I4Ts&feature=pl ayer_embedded"]YouTube - ‪Ex-FBI Agent - Lee Harvey Oswald did not kill John F. Kennedy‬‏[/ame]
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    Watch JBK at 2:40 right after the band begins playing "Hail To The Chief". I'd always read that JBK held it together pretty well that weekend, but for a moment she looks like someone stuck a dagger in her heart. If that doesn't move you, nothing will!

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuJjaOKITn4]JFK Funeral[/ame]
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    Quote Originally Posted by purpledeegmblue View Post
    I've always thought there was something more to the story. They really didn't do a very good investigation, and what they did do was supressed by the Secret Service and FBI.

    I always thgouht that JFK was shot from the front, that's just what it looks like on the zfilm, but everything I've ever seen about it shows he was shot from behind.

    I'd love to see the government actually publish what they know about the incident. It's been 50 years, for God's sake. What's the point of keeping it all secret now?
    Agreed; no need to keep a seal on the information but such a seal is standard practice on sensitive events. They are still releasing tapes from LBJ's presidency.

    As for the known events of that day; we know what Oswald did after Kennedy was shot and, presumably, after he did it.

    Oswald admitted to riding both bus and taxi in returning to his roominghouse after the assassination of the President. From 1026 North Beckley Avenue, Oswald could easily have walked the nine tenths of a mile to 10th Street and Patton Avenue where he encountered Tippit.
    http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk...html#movements

    One would think that if he were part of a large conspiracy; they would have gotten him a ride at the very least. If, as a lot of speculation goes, Jack Ruby was sent to silence Oswald...wouldn't it make much more sense to never put Oswald in that situation at all? Furthermore, there was no iron-clad guarantee that Ruby would have been given the opportunity to get at Oswald when he did so, again, why put that X factor into the plan?

    If there were a larger conspiracy of actors at play on 9/11 there would have been a plan for all of the murderers and conspirators to avoid capture and then be silenced; if silencing was the ultimate goal as it is often alleged to have been with Jack Ruby.

    As for your post....I think when the seal is finally broken you won't find that there was any involvement by this government in killing JFK. I think you will likely find that Castro/Cubans of some stripe was in contact with Oswald. In short, Cuba was behind it. I think you'll also find that Oswald was on the CIA payroll for a time (before the assassination) hence his travels to and from the USSR.

    But getting back to Cuba; lets say the information was out there and in September 1964, the Warren Commission fingers Cuba. This is an act of war and Johnson has to invade Cuba. I mean, theres no 2 ways about it. What does Russia do? They likely nuke us; I don't think I'm being overly dramatic in that view. Its not as if we can show Nikolai the evidence and he'll say, "Well, President Johnson...do what you have to do." No, we'd be trading missiles over the Atlantic and life, as we know it, ends.

    Say what you want about the years 1965-2011 but I think they have been better than what the alternative would have been...

    We would have invaded Cuba.
    Russia would have nuked us.
    We would have nuked Russia.
    Game Over.

    And I think, finally, you'll see a lot of hand wringing about how the FBI or Secret Service allowed Kennedy to go to Dallas and failed to account for Oswald which is someone who, at the very least, should have been tailed, followed, or watched closely. Today, such a bungling would be unthinkable and anybody who made such a threat against Obama would have their whereabouts known widely before AF1 touched down. In 1963, the times were different, you couldn't just track anyone and everyone so it makes sense, sort of. Still, it's their job and they failed.

    One thing that is a huge coincidence to me is how Oswald just happened to be working in the building next to where the motorcade route was going to be sent. I don't think it was a set-up per say but I do feel that the Plaza location which was, as far as I know, picked in advance. The Plaza had been there for something like 20 years already and it was the site, as I understand it, of many rallies for politicians, demonstrations, etc... I think his getting a job or "placement" if you will at TSBD was more an opportunity for that sort of event rather than a motorcade.

    As I recall, the seal was 75 years. That means 2038; right? It will be a shocking reveal to be sure.

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    I watched the funeral video. Thanks for posting it.

    How did Mrs. Kennedy hold together that first few days?

    I could not have. I would have lost my mind. They must have had her pretty doped up.
    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" Arthur Schopenhauer, 1788 - 1860


    "Success has many fathers but failure is an orphan." John F. Kennedy News Conference April 21, 1961.

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    It is no wonder Ted turned into a drunk. The pain in his life, the responsibility of both families kids counting on him for so much.

    I would get lost in a bottle also, and I do not drink. In some ways Ted is thought of as the weakest brother. I think history has placed in his charge, shoes I am glad I did not have to wear.
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    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" Arthur Schopenhauer, 1788 - 1860


    "Success has many fathers but failure is an orphan." John F. Kennedy News Conference April 21, 1961.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purpledeegmblue View Post
    I've always thought there was something more to the story. They really didn't do a very good investigation, and what they did do was supressed by the Secret Service and FBI.

    I always thgouht that JFK was shot from the front, that's just what it looks like on the zfilm, but everything I've ever seen about it shows he was shot from behind.

    I'd love to see the government actually publish what they know about the incident. It's been 50 years, for God's sake. What's the point of keeping it all secret now?
    you are not familiar with witness testimonys then obviously and have never seen the movie JFK.also to accept that theory,you got to say the laws of physics scientists have gone by for thousands of years no longer appliesd anymore.lol also you then have to say that all the doctors and pathogists in dallas were wrong and did not know what they are talking about. you were right the first time,he was shot from the front,both in the head and in the throat.
    five 9/11 official conspiracy theory apologists on ignore.Reason? they lie when they are defeated and wont look at the evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ar10 View Post
    To answer your question, why still keep it quiet? George Bush. He was the head of the CIA as well as being a vice-president and President. In 1963, he was a low level operative somewhere between the MOB and CIA (one and the same)

    He is reported to have been in Dealey Plaza on the day of the shooting, and Nixon was close by as well. Nixon was also a foot soldier for powerful people at that time.







    YouTube - ‪Ex-FBI Agent - Lee Harvey Oswald did not kill John F. Kennedy‬‏
    great post,well said.
    five 9/11 official conspiracy theory apologists on ignore.Reason? they lie when they are defeated and wont look at the evidence.

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    Yet more evidence that people who rely on You tube are very poor at doing basic research.

    You tube is entertainment it is not a source for evidence of anything .

    What lane and others fail to mention about Richard Dodds is that he was in fact interviewed by the FBI in 1964 as part of the Warren commission investigation. The record of this interview is FBI Record 124-10026-10155 , FBI interview of Richard Calvin Dodd May 17, 1964

    He was not called as a witness for the commission simply because he had nothing significant to testify to.

    In fact his later claim to conspiracy theorists ( years later ) is contradictory to what he reported to the FBI. He explained to the FBI that he kept his eyes on the Limo the entire time that the shots were being fired. His later statement that he saw smoke from the knoll was made after being approached by conspiracy theorists desperate to find a witness. IF he kept his eyes on the limo which he originally claimed and which also the most likely story he did not look at the grassy knoll and therefore saw nothing there, to include smoke.

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