Thread: Your Opinion, In 500 Words, What Happened To JFK?

finally these videos here also debunk the fairy tale that oswald kileld kennedy as well.the lone nut therits trolls who wont admit they have been proven wrong always constantly ignroe these videos and never try yo address them because they know they cant refute the evidence in there because they know it proves them wrong.I hope mature enough not to do the same thing?

that you are open minded.

http://www.politicalforum.com/jfk/19...6th-floor.html

oh and finally,there were too many unaccounted for bullets holes as well.you have the magic bullet where only in a fairy tale land woucl it have caused all those 7 or 8 wounds to both kennedy and connolly they said did to the back of the neck and to connollys leg,then you have the head wound, 2 shots,then you have the 3rd shot that struck james tague.the three shots they say oswald got off in a miraculous 5.6 seconds even though no expert marksman has been able to duplicate that feat.

well that doesnt account for the other bullets found,one in the frame of the secret service car,one in the windsheild that policemen witnessed,holes on the sign that policemen witnessed as well who said the sign was removed the next day,one on the curb which was removed as well and resurfaced the next day acording to police officers and photos as well,then one on the grass a plainclothes cop is seen picking up and walking off with as you can see in those videos,one on the street as well. I have a DVD that proves all this i can refer you to if you promise to watch it.

yep oswald was the lone assassin and had all these magic bullets going everywhere somehow.

finally here is the proof that Im not lying about different bullets found.

http://www.politicalforum.com/jfk/88...onspiracy.html

http://www.politicalforum.com/jfk/10...ots-front.html

as you heard,that one doctor there said the shot on that windshield was an entrance to the front of the car.

also the first rifle they found as you can see in that film,was a muaser,a rifle that doesnt even come close to what the mannlicher carcano looks like.Plice officers experinced in rifles said it was a mauser. and as you can see on this thread,there are the doctors saying his head wound in the back was an EXIT wound. face it dude,the media and government brainwshed you.Nothing to be ashamed of,they did that to millions of americans.Heck i was one of them they brainwashed for many years while growing up.the school system is so corrupt its unreal.they only tell you what they WANT you to hear in our school systems.

Here it is.this is what I was looking for earlier.This pic that Seven posted,CLEARLY proves that the poster that came on and said that while hunting animals everytime he has shot an animals,their head goes forward when shot from behind,not backwards that he is telling the truth.Not only that,it also proves that sniper who wrote that book saying that in all his multiple kills as a sniper in vietnam,he never once saw a persons head go backwards when shooting them from behind.Case Closed.Oswald is innocent and Kennedy was shot from the FRONT in the neck and the FRONT of the head as well.Next case please.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/conspi...-knoll-58.html

Sir,

I admire your dedication to this cause of yours. Clearly this means a lot to you.
Nothing I say is meant to demean you in any way, nor would I ever presume to get into a point-by-point pi$$ing contest with a man who clearly has his mind made up, (and firmly closed to objective discussion or testimony).

Without any disrespect intended, allow me to point out a few things;

a. You began your series of postings today by stating that the Oliver Stone film, JFK, is "100 times more accurate to the truth on what really happened than what the warren commissions said despite what some of the trolls come on here and say defending the warren commission.stone poured over thousands of documents over the years before he made the movie so the majority of the film is accurate,I suggest you watch it sometime".

I have seen JFK. It is an entertaining Hollywood movie, nothing more, and nothing less. More to the point, it is a compelling and well-made Hollywood movie, and despite dozens of historical inaccuracies, it has (unfortunately) been embraced by many, many people who are looking for a conspiracy where none exists.

b. You can't prove anything on the internet.
You can merely hope to provide sufficient & compelling evidence in order that you might sway somebody's opinion on one thing or another.
There's a huge difference (to a man of science like myself, anyway) between proof and evidence.
To this point, sir; You have provided no compelling evidence, and trust me, I am open to suggestion.
You have offered up half-baked conjecture and questionable second-hand testimony that only serves to support MY original opinion;

The JFK assassination was a sad and tragic affair.
The real truth was just too simple, sad, and hard to comprehend.
So people, propelled by what they viewed as a 'government cover-up' concocted dozens of wild theories.
The government cover-up was quite real, don't get me wrong:
Many agencies scrambled to cover up their ineptitude and their failure to protect the President.
Beyond that, there is nothing.

NOTHING, sir.

Respectfully,

Sparky2

Originally Posted by sparky2

Sir,

I admire your dedication to this cause of yours. Clearly this means a lot to you.
Nothing I say is meant to demean you in any way, nor would I ever presume to get into a point-by-point pi$ contest with a man who clearly has his mind made up, (and firmly closed to objective discussion or testimony).

Without any disrespect intended, allow me to point out a few things;

a. You began your series of postings today by stating that the Oliver Stone film, JFK, is "100 times more accurate to the truth on what really happened than what the warren commissions said despite what some of the trolls come on here and say defending the warren commission.stone poured over thousands of documents over the years before he made the movie so the majority of the film is accurate,I suggest you watch it sometime".

I have seen JFK. It is an entertaining Hollywood movie, nothing more, and nothing less. More to the point, it is a compelling and well-made Hollywood movie, and despite dozens of historical inaccuracies, it has (unfortunately) been embraced by many, many people who are looking for a conspiracy where none exists.

b. You can't prove anything on the internet.
You can merely hope to provide sufficient & compelling evidence in order that you might sway somebody's opinion on one thing or another.
There's a huge difference (to a man of science like myself, anyway) between proof and evidence.
To this point, sir; You have provided no compelling evidence, and trust me, I am open to suggestion.
You have offered up half-baked conjecture and questionable second-hand testimony that only serves to support MY original opinion;

The JFK assassination was a sad and tragic affair.
The real truth was just too simple, sad, and hard to comprehend.
So people, propelled by what they viewed as a 'government cover-up' concocted dozens of wild theories.
The government cover-up was quite real, don't get me wrong:
Many agencies scrambled to cover up their ineptitude and their failure to protect the President.
Beyond that, there is nothing.

NOTHING, sir.

Respectfully,

Sparky2

see thats where you make the mistake that many people do is just because its a movie you make the assumption that its nothig less than an entertaining movie which cannot be anything further than the truth.It should be called a documentary because if you ever did any research and i can see you have not,then you would know the majority of it unlike the warren commission is based on facts and evidence. Me closed to objective discussion? other way around.you havent addressed any of my points I brought up.no surprise,thats what lone theorists always do,refuse to debate them because they are in denial and only see what they want to see.

theres plenty of proof and evidence oswald did not do it,again your just not looking at it and made the mistake of thinking that just because JFK is a movie,that its fictional which cant be anything further than the the truth.there is a book out called JFK THE BOOK OF THE FILM where Stone lists all his sources where he got all the material from for instance to back up everything he says. you need to watch that movie again sometime but next time go into it being open minded and dont ignore the laws of physics

Your not open one bit,you havent addressed ONE SINGLE IOTA of the evidence I brought up, so enough of this nonsense that I have not provided any compelling evidence.address all my points I brought up or admit you cant counter them cause right now your just talking trash.

hate to brake the news to you but the warren commission is nothing but a theory and has no evidence whatsoever to back their claims up.you are the only one that brought up half baked conjecture,the commission has NEVER been able to prove oswald did it.period.

your so much in denial you cant handle the truth.Jack Nicholson was talking about people like YOU in that movie A FEW GOOD MEN. yeah thats all you have is a wacked out opinion that holds no water against the facts of the case.thats the reason there has always been such a huge controversy over the case and always will be till we have a REAL investigation into the case is because the facts of the case dont fit the explanations given by the government.too many bizaare impossible coincidences happend that they dont become coincidences anymore.

respectfully sir,you have no debating skills whatsoever.I see you are too close minded on this subect and dont want to look at the evidence so no sense in going any further with this.

Originally Posted by sparky2

You can't prove anything on the internet.
You can merely hope to provide sufficient & compelling evidence in order that you might sway somebody's opinion on one thing or another.
There's a huge difference (to a man of science like myself, anyway) between proof and evidence.
To this point, sir; You have provided no compelling evidence, and trust me, I am open to suggestion.
You have offered up half-baked conjecture and questionable second-hand testimony that only serves to support MY original opinion;

I disagree. a lot of people are way too lazy to search the info on the internet. Which is why the majority of Americans are clueless idiots right now. 911 is like a machine with the info and I for one, can appreciate it. He's doing his part. are you doing yours?

The JFK assassination was a sad and tragic affair.
The real truth was just too simple, sad, and hard to comprehend.
So people, propelled by what they viewed as a 'government cover-up' concocted dozens of wild theories.
The government cover-up was quite real, don't get me wrong:
Many agencies scrambled to cover up their ineptitude and their failure to protect the President.
Beyond that, there is nothing.

So you agree that the last decent Politician JFK was killed in cold blood?

Originally Posted by ar10

I think the Secret Service set up the hit, working with two agencies, the CIA and the MOB. After the initial operation, the FBI was also called into action to foster the single gunman theory. People on the ground tell that the motorcade came to a stop between the time frame often referred to as the second and third shot. The Secret Service was in charge of Kennedy before he was killed, and they were in charge (kidnapping the bead body from the Dallas Police) of Kennedy after he was killed.

The whole thing was a Coup from inside Government,

I think the CFR set it all up. but this is close to what I'm thinking happend. one giant conspiracy and cover up. so we'll talk about it for years and movies will be made and books will be written.

while demons go to their graves with the truth.

Originally Posted by 9/11 was an inside job

see thats where you make the mistake that many people do is just because its a movie you make the assumption that its nothig less than an entertaining movie which cannot be anything further than the truth.It should be called a documentary because if you ever did any research and i can see you have not,then you would know the majority of it unlike the warren commission is based on facts and evidence. Me closed to objective discussion? other way around.you havent addressed any of my points I brought up.no surprise,thats what lone theorists always do,refuse to debate them because they are in denial and only see what they want to see.

theres plenty of proof and evidence oswald did not do it,again your just not looking at it and made the mistake of thinking that just because JFK is a movie,that its fictional which cant be anything further than the the truth.there is a book out called JFK THE BOOK OF THE FILM where Stone lists all his sources where he got all the material from for instance to back up everything he says. you need to watch that movie again sometime but next time go into it being open minded and dont ignore the laws of physics

Your not open one bit,you havent addressed ONE SINGLE IOTA of the evidence I brought up, so enough of this nonsense that I have not provided any compelling evidence.address all my points I brought up or admit you cant counter them cause right now your just talking trash.

hate to brake the news to you but the warren commission is nothing but a theory and has no evidence whatsoever to back their claims up.you are the only one that brought up half baked conjecture,the commission has NEVER been able to prove oswald did it.period.

your so much in denial you cant handle the truth.Jack Nicholson was talking about people like YOU in that movie A FEW GOOD MEN. yeah thats all you have is a wacked out opinion that holds no water against the facts of the case.thats the reason there has always been such a huge controversy over the case and always will be till we have a REAL investigation into the case is because the facts of the case dont fit the explanations given by the government.too many bizaare impossible coincidences happend that they dont become coincidences anymore.

respectfully sir,you have no debating skills whatsoever.I see you are too close minded on this subect and dont want to look at the evidence so no sense in going any further with this.

This isn't a debate, my good fellow.
This is me answering the original question posed at the beginning of the thread;
I quote, "IN YOUR OPINION, IN 500 WORDS OR LESS, WHAT HAPPENED TO JFK?"

It is not for you decide whether I am closed minded or not.
The reality is, I am VERY open minded on this subject, and I YEARN for somebody to step forward with some credible evidence of a larger conspiracy.
Sadly, that has not happened.

Re; The possibility that I am talking trash sir? I am just stating facts.
Again, no insult to you personally intended, but your evidence is weak, second-hand, re-hashed, hysterical garbage,
and
the evidence and testimony of Oliver Stone's movie as being rife with gross historical inaccuracies is legendary.

This is important, and I ask that you take notes;
You actually hurt your case by citing Oliver Stone's film as a 'documentary'. It makes you look like a dullard and a tool.

I do not believe that you are a dullard and a tool, really I do not.
I believe that you are a good person, and that you actually believe all this nonsense that you so fervently spout on this good web forum.

I wish you well, sir.
Do not expect any 'debate' on this matter with me until you bring some fresh, credible evidence.

Is that fair?


QUOTE 4horsemen: "So you agree that the last decent Politician JFK was killed in cold blood?"

I do not agree that he was the last decent politician. He was far from decent. His record of marital infidelities is the stuff of legends, as a matter of fact. He was a cocksman and a self-indulgent cad.
But YES, he was killed in cold blood.
In my opinion, by Lee Harvey Oswald.
And by Lee Harvey Oswald alone.

Originally Posted by sparky2

This isn't a debate, my good fellow.
This is me answering the original question posed at the beginning of the thread;
I quote, "IN YOUR OPINION, IN 500 WORDS OR LESS, WHAT HAPPENED TO JFK?"

It is not for you decide whether I am closed minded or not.
The reality is, I am VERY open minded on this subject, and I YEARN for somebody to step forward with some credible evidence of a larger conspiracy.
Sadly, that has not happened.

Re; The possibility that I am talking trash sir? I am just stating facts.
Again, no insult to you personally intended, but your evidence is weak, second-hand, re-hashed, hysterical garbage,
and
the evidence and testimony of Oliver Stone's movie as being rife with gross historical inaccuracies is legendary.

This is important, and I ask that you take notes;
You actually hurt your case by citing Oliver Stone's film as a 'documentary'. It makes you look like a dullard and a tool.

I do not believe that you are a dullard and a tool, really I do not.
I believe that you are a good person, and that you actually believe all this nonsense that you so fervently spout on this good web forum.

I wish you well, sir.
Do not expect any 'debate' on this matter with me until you bring some fresh, credible evidence.

Is that fair?


QUOTE 4horsemen: "So you agree that the last decent Politician JFK was killed in cold blood?"

I do not agree that he was the last decent politician. He was far from decent. His record of marital infidelities is the stuff of legends, as a matter of fact. He was a cocksman and a self-indulgent cad.
But YES, he was killed in cold blood.
In my opinion, by Lee Harvey Oswald.
And by Lee Harvey Oswald alone.

then you have been brainwashed by the government wheter you want to acknowledge it or not and have proved you are afraid of the truth and only see what you want to see.the only here who spouts fervious nonsense is you.You know it,I know it.

You run away from ALL my points I brought up like all Lone nut theorists who have been brainwashed do afraid to tackle any of the points cause you know you cant refute them.Believe me,Im not going to go any further with you since again,you refuse to address any of my evidence or facts and just ignore it since it doesnt go along with your fairy tales.I dont debate with someone who wont even try and refute ANY of the evidence brought up and CLAIMS its not credible.Until you learn how to debate,this discussion is at an end.In the real world,you would be laughed out of a debating hall within a minute if you debated like this there the way you do here.they would be saying to you-arent you going to say anything? you have not addressed any of his points he has brought up?

oh and kennedy bedding women right and left,that doesnt change the fact that he did great things for the american people and was stepping on some very powerful toes in washington and pissing them off.

Originally Posted by 4Horsemen

I disagree. a lot of people are way too lazy to search the info on the internet. Which is why the majority of Americans are clueless idiots right now. 911 is like a machine with the info and I for one, can appreciate it. He's doing his part. are you doing yours?



So you agree that the last decent Politician JFK was killed in cold blood?

Yeah he for sure is way to lazy to do any research as he has proven in spades.Obviously only sees what he wants to see and is clueless so Im not going any further with him.