Thread: Right wing wet dream

Originally Posted by Royd Bogan

There are laws that cover those things now. At the moment there might be, but if the right has its way you'll lose them. Do you think you should lose them?

Do you see what you're saying in your final paragraph? Public sector workers, who are unionised, have better pay and conditions than private sector workers who are not unionised. What you are apparently calling for is for the public sector to become like the private sector, non-unionised and poorly remunerated. When that's done what's left? What's left is the removal of holidays, occupational heath and safety, pension schemes....See where it can go? That's why I created this thread so people could think about a nation with no unions and see what it would look like.

You only get 14 days vacation a year. That's criminal, but you could even lose that if the right gets its way.

Tell it to the Chinese. I don't think they care.

Originally Posted by Revere

People who produce worthwhile things don't use more than 14 days of vacation per year.

Sad, sad, sad. Don't you understand that not only do employers pay for your labour they pay for hours of your life? Live to work or work to live?

Albert:

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Originally Posted by Royd Bogan

An economy without unions to represent workers. Now what would that look like?

China? All hail the 100 hour working week.

Originally Posted by Royd Bogan

Sad, sad, sad. Don't you understand that not only do employers pay for your labour they pay for hours of your life? Live to work or work to live?

Oh please.................''Gee not only do I have to perform but I have to show up as well ?''
You guys kill me......''Cant I get a hourly wage without working hourly?''

You guys need a second set of parents, no two ways about it...

Some companies let you work at home....then you can do as you want

Originally Posted by Goldwater

It would be like it was before the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, no minimum wage, no time and a half, no overtime pay, no labor restrictions for minors.

It might also come to include fewer holidays, no benefits, lower wages, and no attention paid to worker safety. Kind of like Brazil, China, and India till the 1990's.

My last job was a non-union work place. They had minimum wage,paid vacation,holiday bonuses,and everything else that a normal place of business has.

Originally Posted by ian

China? All hail the 100 hour working week.

Yeah, then you complain they are kicking our ass....

Sorry, stopped serving egg in your beer a long time ago....

Originally Posted by Royd Bogan

An economy without unions to represent workers. Now what would that look like?

An economy without unions, without investment taxes, and without estate taxes. That way the superrich can inherit and live of the massive control of the wealth they have tax free, while working people pay the tax.

That is the conservative/liberarian utopia.

Eventually it would look pretty much like the feudal system

When I worked at a government operation that had no union it looked pretty good. We met with management, negotiated health insurance, salary, and other benefits. We did well.

The corrupt, incompetent, lazy, and brutal did suffer, though. Some were fired, they didn't get promoted. Life sucked for them.

Then the corrupt, incompetent, lazy, and brutal brought in a union and now everything revolves around extortion and conflict and it's been downhill ever since.

Go figure.

But, we mustn't overlook the left-wing wet dream. That's were there are no unions because there are no jobs and everyone is, sigh, equal.

Originally Posted by PatrickT

When I worked at a government operation that had no union it looked pretty good. We met with management, negotiated health insurance, salary, and other benefits. We did well.

The corrupt, incompetent, lazy, and brutal did suffer, though. Some were fired, they didn't get promoted. Life sucked for them.

Then the corrupt, incompetent, lazy, and brutal brought in a union and now everything revolves around extortion and conflict and it's been downhill ever since.

Go figure.

But, we mustn't overlook the left-wing wet dream. That's were there are no unions because there are no jobs and everyone is, sigh, equal.

Which "left-wing" person has said anything that?