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An economy without unions to represent workers. Now what would that look like?
"The redeeming feature of war is that it puts a nation to the test. As exposure to the atmosphere reduces all mummies to instant dissolution, so war passes supreme judgement upon social systems that have outlived their vitality."
It would be like it was before the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, no minimum wage, no time and a half, no overtime pay, no labor restrictions for minors.Originally Posted by Royd Bogan
It might also come to include fewer holidays, no benefits, lower wages, and no attention paid to worker safety. Kind of like Brazil, China, and India till the 1990's.
Last edited by Goldwater; Feb 23 2011 at 06:02 PM.
Guru
Just public employees unions are a problem. They are nothing but criminal front groups for Democrats laundering taxpayer money back into their pockets.
Guru
Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). There are laws that cover those things now.
People in nonunion plants get holidays off and receive benefits so that's just more BS. OSHA is there to enforce worker safety standards.It might also come to include fewer holidays, no benefits, lower wages, and no attention paid to worker safety.
But the fight today is about public sector unions, not all unions, and public employees shouldn't be able to hold taxpayers hostage to receive better benefits than other workers receive. Those striking teachers in Wisconsin are the perfect example of why public sector unions are bad for everyone except their members.
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Not relevant - bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! Try again!
"The redeeming feature of war is that it puts a nation to the test. As exposure to the atmosphere reduces all mummies to instant dissolution, so war passes supreme judgement upon social systems that have outlived their vitality."
Guru
Ouch. Like a counter time-stream there, the so-called Third World is moving forward and the US is moving backward.
"The redeeming feature of war is that it puts a nation to the test. As exposure to the atmosphere reduces all mummies to instant dissolution, so war passes supreme judgement upon social systems that have outlived their vitality."
Guru
There are laws that cover those things now. At the moment there might be, but if the right has its way you'll lose them. Do you think you should lose them?
Do you see what you're saying in your final paragraph? Public sector workers, who are unionised, have better pay and conditions than private sector workers who are not unionised. What you are apparently calling for is for the public sector to become like the private sector, non-unionised and poorly remunerated. When that's done what's left? What's left is the removal of holidays, occupational heath and safety, pension schemes....See where it can go? That's why I created this thread so people could think about a nation with no unions and see what it would look like.
You only get 14 days vacation a year. That's criminal, but you could even lose that if the right gets its way.
"The redeeming feature of war is that it puts a nation to the test. As exposure to the atmosphere reduces all mummies to instant dissolution, so war passes supreme judgement upon social systems that have outlived their vitality."
Guru
People who produce worthwhile things don't use more than 14 days of vacation per year.
Guru
Public employee unions picked the wrong time to pizz off taxpayers.
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American jobs were sent to China. There are no real unions in China. Blame the Chinese.
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