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    An economy without unions to represent workers. Now what would that look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd Bogan View Post
    An economy without unions to represent workers. Now what would that look like?
    It would be like it was before the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, no minimum wage, no time and a half, no overtime pay, no labor restrictions for minors.

    It might also come to include fewer holidays, no benefits, lower wages, and no attention paid to worker safety. Kind of like Brazil, China, and India till the 1990's.
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    Just public employees unions are a problem. They are nothing but criminal front groups for Democrats laundering taxpayer money back into their pockets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revere View Post
    Just public employees unions are a problem. They are nothing but criminal front groups for Democrats laundering taxpayer money back into their pockets.
    Not relevant - bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! Try again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwater View Post
    It would be like it was before the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, no minimum wage, no time and a half, no overtime pay, no labor restrictions for minors.
    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). There are laws that cover those things now.

    It might also come to include fewer holidays, no benefits, lower wages, and no attention paid to worker safety.
    People in nonunion plants get holidays off and receive benefits so that's just more BS. OSHA is there to enforce worker safety standards.

    But the fight today is about public sector unions, not all unions, and public employees shouldn't be able to hold taxpayers hostage to receive better benefits than other workers receive. Those striking teachers in Wisconsin are the perfect example of why public sector unions are bad for everyone except their members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Luna View Post
    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). There are laws that cover those things now.



    People in nonunion plants get holidays off and receive benefits so that's just more BS. OSHA is there to enforce worker safety standards.

    But the fight today is about public sector unions, not all unions, and public employees shouldn't be able to hold taxpayers hostage to receive better benefits than other workers receive. Those striking teachers in Wisconsin are the perfect example of why public sector unions are bad for everyone except their members.
    There are laws that cover those things now. At the moment there might be, but if the right has its way you'll lose them. Do you think you should lose them?

    Do you see what you're saying in your final paragraph? Public sector workers, who are unionised, have better pay and conditions than private sector workers who are not unionised. What you are apparently calling for is for the public sector to become like the private sector, non-unionised and poorly remunerated. When that's done what's left? What's left is the removal of holidays, occupational heath and safety, pension schemes....See where it can go? That's why I created this thread so people could think about a nation with no unions and see what it would look like.

    You only get 14 days vacation a year. That's criminal, but you could even lose that if the right gets its way.
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    People who produce worthwhile things don't use more than 14 days of vacation per year.
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    Public employee unions picked the wrong time to pizz off taxpayers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revere View Post
    People who produce worthwhile things don't use more than 14 days of vacation per year.
    Sad, sad, sad. Don't you understand that not only do employers pay for your labour they pay for hours of your life? Live to work or work to live?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd Bogan View Post
    There are laws that cover those things now. At the moment there might be, but if the right has its way you'll lose them. Do you think you should lose them?

    Do you see what you're saying in your final paragraph? Public sector workers, who are unionised, have better pay and conditions than private sector workers who are not unionised. What you are apparently calling for is for the public sector to become like the private sector, non-unionised and poorly remunerated. When that's done what's left? What's left is the removal of holidays, occupational heath and safety, pension schemes....See where it can go? That's why I created this thread so people could think about a nation with no unions and see what it would look like.

    You only get 14 days vacation a year. That's criminal, but you could even lose that if the right gets its way.
    Tell it to the Chinese. I don't think they care.

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