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View Poll Results: Should US companies use incredibly low paid workers in third world contries?
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Old 04-02-2004, 05:07 AM
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Default Made in China

Let's face it. Almost everything we see was made in some remote third world country. Large American economic behemoths setting up factories where a villiage once was. Employing the villagers for a dollar a day so that they can make shoes or other products that are too "labor intesive" to prduce in the states. The workers have neither safety procautions nor do they have job security.
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Old 04-08-2004, 03:16 AM
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Default Radio Flyer Wagons ........

.....the classic American little red wagon will not be made in Chicago Ill anymore - they are moving production to CHINA.

My brother visited China on business a few months ago, his first time there.
He was toured around the production facility and he saw workers who were not paid much money, but they're given food, uniforms for work, housing and health care.

The airline had lost the bro's luggage so the host company's liason took him shopping and paid for a shirt, pants, underwear, socks and a belt - total cost about $35 American.

See, their whole economy is SO unlike ours that we cannot compete fairly - the playing field isn't anywhere NEAR level.
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Old 04-12-2004, 01:38 PM
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Default The dynamics of wealth

I'm becoming more and more of the opinion that if the work needing to be done in America were left in the hands of the work ethic of the general american populous.. there would be an economic collapse.

That asside,

Yes their economy's condition allows them to undercut us by a large amount, so american manual laborers are being cut out and have to look for new work.

A long time ago companies decided to remove the working class from the US, and instead employ foreign workers at a considerable proffit. Our super-bloated commercial economy is BASED on that. China is nothing new, it's just a lot more plentiful. It will continue to be so until China moves the entirity of production in-house, and becomes the service provider, and America is forced to do it's own menial work, or buy everything from China. In the end, there will always be work to be done by Americans, since every American needs a place to live, food, clothing, housing etc.. What China -will- do is flood our economy (as it already is) with astronomically cheaper alternatives to products made by major american companies which are already overcharging for them. In the end, America really wins in terms of physical wealth, and China will probably become a bigger world power as well.
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Old 04-13-2004, 01:24 AM
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Default Really?

How do you think America will end up better off as far as "physical wealth" is concerned, if Americans don't have jobs with which to buy the cheap Chinese goods?

You almost hit the point about the vanishing middle class. Who will buy all those Chinese goods when the middle class is gone and all America has is the super rich CEOs of multi-national corporations who bought American gov't and the poverty-stricken Americans who clean up their hotel rooms and change their babies' diapers? Currently we have immigrants to do that work - mostly Latinos.

Will the generation after the current high schoolers think it's great if they can get a job scrubbing toilets at the Marriot - as long as they make enough to buy a cheap Chinese DVD player?


Is that where we want American ideals and visions to go?
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Americans are losing jobs to these big Coporations, that Bush supports. It`s all about money these days!!!!! It seems like this today:Big Coporations first and the people second. This is wrong indeed!!!!! Too many jobs are going overseas!! It is Bullsh**!!!!! We need a change, a change for the better, a change that will help us, not harm us. Yes, Yes, Change, Indeed, We need is a Change Indeed!
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Old 08-27-2004, 12:44 AM
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Default Made in China

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I wonder if anyone ever thought about this: the chinese have long aspired to becoming a nuclear power in the world, the problem being that they didn't have the economy to support it. now our corporations have given it to them.
anyone who thinks that the chinese do not hate the U.S. as much as during the mao regime had better think again..these people (chinese gov't) are dangerous. anyone up for being nuked by our corporate-fed comrades?[/b]
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Old 08-27-2004, 05:19 AM
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Default Outsourcing To China Not An Issue

Outsourcing is a dead issue that was never a concern and never will be.

Even Kerry has stopped talking about it, hoping people will forget that he declared it such a big problem when it was nothing.

Just to be sure, roll the facts:
1. Government statisticians reckon that outsourced jobs are responsible for well under 1% of those signed up as unemployed.
http://www.economist.com/World/na/di...ory_id=2501977

2. We have economically, provably resulted in a net gain of jobs here when measuring countries outsourcing here to our outsourcing to other countries:
http://www.economist.com/World/na/di...ory_id=2572245

Remember this is from a magazine that endorsed Clinton over Dole. So it can't be smeared as right-wing...

3. The obvious job recovery is in full swing. The last few months have seen a tremondous amount of jobs created after a natural downturn. Bush's tax cuts certainly helped propel it.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...b-growth_x.htm

Outsourcing is not a concern...at all. The Democrat Party always need a bogeyman when out of power.
In 1984 it was the big bad Japanese taking over all our companies.
In 1988 it was robots and machines displacing American workers.
In 1992 it was Mexico stealing all our jobs.
In 1996 Clinton's numbers were good, so no bogeyman.
In 2000 After 8 years of Democrat rule, a bogeyman would probably make Gore look bad, so none here either.
In 2004, a Republican (Bush) in office so bogeyman is China and India stealing all our jobs.

But now that won't work, they'll have to find a new villain, my guess is the Saudis.
Who will fall for this again? I think regular Americans are smart enough not to keep falling for the same fearmongering BS.
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Paying for our own Destruction

“Those skilled in war subdue the enemy’s army without battle” — Sun Tzu.

Sleight of hand — it’s one of the oldest tricks in the book, yet it continues to work because of human tendencies to watch the obvious rather than what lies beneath. That fact has half the world today scrambling after terrorist cells and trying to control the problems of the Middle East while at the same time funding the nation at the heart of all these problems.
The Profits of Genocide will take an in-depth look at the state-owned trading companies of China and how these are literally being used to divide and conquer the U.S. and other Western nations. By satisfying Western consumers’ demands for cheap goods, China is amassing substantial wealth — enough to sway markets according to its agenda. Meanwhile, these trading companies are supplying terrorist cells and nations with weapons of mass destruction, as well as biological and chemical agents, spreading Western forces thin as we put out fires around the globe. Today, we stand in the ever-growing threat of a great Chinese shadow. Americans (and other Western nations) must react right away — but the solution is controversial and life-changing. The question is whether we will act, or ignore and face the consequences to come.

http://www.geocities.com/profits_of_genocide/
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