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    As has been the case in Britain, they got their foot in the door with pleas for just a little Sharia, just for a few community matters. Then, the reality hits that Sharia is a package deal: as even Imam Rauf has noted, "it is not possible in principle to limit the Shari'ah to some aspects of human life and leave out others."

    And so commences a process of "jurisdiction creeping." There is no such thing as "just a little" Sharia. "Islamic 'Arbitrators' Shadow German Law," by Maximillian Popp for Der Spiegel, September 1
    In mosques or tearooms, Muslim elders dispense verdicts that keep their communities in line. They mediate between aggrieved immigrants, sometimes at the expense of German justice. Some say the arbitrations ease caseloads in court, but others see the creeping advance of Sharia law.

    The men ambushed Fuat S. on the street, then locked him in a basement and tortured him. Fuat was later admitted to the hospital in Berlin's Neukölln district with gaping wounds, contusions and broken bones.

    Police took his statement concerning the attack the same night. Fuat S., a gambler and a recipient of "Hartz IV" -- Germany's social welfare benefits for the long-term unemployed -- gave a detailed statement. He'd conned an acquaintance, Mustafa O., out of €150,000 ($217,000) and the man was taking his revenge, Fuat said, together with his three brothers. They hit his hands, arms and knees with a hammer and threatened to shoot him.

    The public prosecutor's office in Berlin initiated proceedings against Mustafa O., a Palestinian man who had come to their attention repeatedly for violent acts. Police had investigated him in a number of cases, and now prosecutors saw an opportunity to convict a dangerous repeat offender. But when the case began, Fuat S., the principle witness, unexpectedly withdrew his testimony. It was not Mustafa who had tortured him, he said, but an Albanian man he didn't know. Mustafa, he said, wasn't even in the basement at the time. This was clearly a lie, as police analysis of telephone data showed, but the judge was forced to acquit the defendant due to lack of evidence.

    The decision, in fact, was reached by a different judge. According to police, the victim's and the perpetrator's families had met at a restaurant in the presence of an Islamic "justice of the peace," an arbitrator who mediates conflicts between Muslims. The two families had reached a compromise: Fuat would drop the charges, and in exchange be relieved of part of his debt.
    Helping to create conditions for the collapse of civil society:
    According to Bernhard Mix, the public prosecutor in charge of the case, Fuat's false testimony was part of a deal between the families. "It's difficult to establish the truth using legal means, when the perpetrator and the victim reach an agreement," he says.

    Judges Without Laws

    Politicians and social workers tend to focus on forced marriages and honor killings, but the baleful influence of these Islamic arbitrators has gone largely unnoticed by the public. Joachim Wagner, an author and television journalist of many years, has taken a closer look at the phenomenon in his book "Richter ohne Gesetz" ("Judges without Laws"). Reconstructing Mustafa O.'s case, he reaches the conclusion that "the Islamic parallel justice system is becoming a threat to the constitutional legal system."

    These justices of the peace don't wear robes. Their courtrooms are mosques or teahouses. They draw their authority not from the law, but from their standing within the community. Most of them are senior members of their families, or imams, and some even fly in from Turkey or Lebanon to resolve disputes. Muslims seek them out when families argue, when daughters take up with nonbelievers or when clans clash. They often trust these arbitrators more than they trust the state.

    The late juvenile court judge Kirsten Heisig drew attention to this problem a year ago: "The law is slipping out of our hands. It's moving to the streets, or into a parallel system where an imam or another representative of the Koran determines what must be done."...
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...783361,00.html
    Europe Freezes in Demographic Winter, a Europe dying out.

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15318


    "All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." -

    http://www.geertwilders.nl
    for those who refuse to bow for Jihad and Sharia.


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    Give em an inch, and they'll take a mile. When will our Euro brethren learn?
    All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. -- Thomas Jefferson

    When the people fear the government there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty -- Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    Give em an inch, and they'll take a mile. When will our Euro brethren learn?
    When they kill millions in a civil war which will happen sooner or later.
    Europe Freezes in Demographic Winter, a Europe dying out.

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15318


    "All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." -

    http://www.geertwilders.nl
    for those who refuse to bow for Jihad and Sharia.

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    Why will people never learn? You cannot have a "multicultural" society. It will always be at odds with each other and ultimately will cause violent reprisals. The Germans of all people ought to know this.

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    This is a duplicate thread, please close it down.

    Orginal: Islamic 'Arbitrators' Shadow German Law

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    Quote Originally Posted by janpor View Post
    This is a duplicate thread, please close it down.

    Orginal: Islamic 'Arbitrators' Shadow German Law
    Nice you have the future flag of Belgium as your avatar
    Europe Freezes in Demographic Winter, a Europe dying out.

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15318


    "All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." -

    http://www.geertwilders.nl
    for those who refuse to bow for Jihad and Sharia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchClogCyborg View Post
    Nice you have the future flag of Belgium as your avatar
    No, it's an action of Moon to support the Palestinian bid for statehood at the UN.

    You should change your avatar too, you can use the link in my signature...
    Last edited by janpor; Sep 09 2011 at 10:22 AM.
    “The world is big enough to satisfy everyones needs, but will always be too small to satisfy everyones greed.” ~ Ghandi

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    Quote Originally Posted by janpor View Post
    No, it's an action of Moon to support the Palestinian bid for statehood at the UN.

    You should change your avatar too, you can use the link in my signature...

    I do not support terrorists, they have plenty of chances for peace without demanding Israel to cease to exist, thats what Hamas is all about. Destroying Israel.

    Anyway in WW2 there were also people who welcomed the nazi's in the occupied nations, no new thing.
    Europe Freezes in Demographic Winter, a Europe dying out.

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15318


    "All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." -

    http://www.geertwilders.nl
    for those who refuse to bow for Jihad and Sharia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchClogCyborg View Post
    I do not support terrorists, they have plenty of chances for peace without demanding Israel to cease to exist, thats what Hamas is all about. Destroying Israel.

    Anyway in WW2 there were also people who welcomed the nazi's in the occupied nations, no new thing.
    Nobody is supporting Hamas here -- I certainly am not.
    “The world is big enough to satisfy everyones needs, but will always be too small to satisfy everyones greed.” ~ Ghandi

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    Quote Originally Posted by janpor View Post
    Nobody is supporting Hamas here -- I certainly am not.
    I "support" Hamas as much as I "support" Israel. If that's "support", then so be it.

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