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    Israeli prisoner swap may be prelude to attack on Iran


    JERUSALEM — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s decision to execute a 1,000-for-1 prisoner exchange last week despite his frequently voiced opposition to such lopsided deals is seen by several Israeli military commentators as an effort to “clear the deck” before possibly undertaking an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

    Amir Oren, the veteran military analyst for Ha'aretz newspaper, took note of Israel’s exchanging 1,027 Palestinian convicts for army Staff Sgt. Gilad Schalit, who had been captured by Hamas in 2006. Mr. Oren wrote that the price paid by Mr. Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak “can be interpreted only in a context that goes beyond that of the Gilad Schalit deal.”

    He noted that Israeli leaders in the past have shown a readiness to absorb “a small loss” in order to attain a greater success, generally involving “some sort of military adventure.”

    Mr. Oren also noted that, until recently, Mr. Netanyahu had faced opposition to attacking Iran from Army Chief of Staff Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi and Mossad intelligence chief Meir Dagan. Both retired earlier this year and have been replaced by men believed to hold a different view on Iran.


    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...e-attack-iran/

    That makes sense. They got their hostages back, and they are all out of bubble gum.


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    funny


    what a crock,


    if that war begins, then mark my words the only bigots left from israel will be the ones that can say "i ran"
    If existence only operates ONE way, is the math the name to know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishadi View Post
    funny


    what a crock,


    if that war begins, then mark my words the only bigots left from israel will be the ones that can say "i ran"
    If Israel attacks Iran, they will be going it alone.. The US has NO stomach for another costly war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    If Israel attacks Iran, they will be going it alone.. The US has NO stomach for another costly war.
    I certainly don't want to see anymore tax dollars going to wars. And nobody would accuse Obama of being pro-Israel, so it won't happen. I predict Israel will take out Iran's nuclear facilities with minimal casualties. There will be a Muslim uprising, but nothing Israel can't handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsited1 View Post
    I certainly don't want to see anymore tax dollars going to wars. And nobody would accuse Obama of being pro-Israel, so it won't happen. I predict Israel will take out Iran's nuclear facilities with minimal casualties. There will be a Muslim uprising, but nothing Israel can't handle.
    It will take 22 strikes to "take out" Iran's power plants... Minimal casualties? I think not.

    What "Muslim" uprising? The whole Arab world is solidly behind a just peace in Palestine.. except Iran.. and Israel.

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    You guys need to keep up with current events:

    U.S. Sells Bunker Busters To Israel

    September 24, 2011

    Two years ago, the Obama Administration secretly authorized the sale of 55 deep-penetrating bombs — or bunker busters — to Israel. That's according to an investigation by Newsweek magazine. The bombs could potentially be used in Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear sites. Weekends on All Things Considered host Guy Raz talks with Eli Lake, the reporter who broke the story.

    Copyright © 2011 National Public Radio®. For personal, noncommercial use only. See Terms of Use. For other uses, prior permission required.

    GUY RAZ, host: Here's another story we're following this weekend. Newsweek is set to publish a piece on Monday that back in 2009, the Obama administration secretly provided Israel with 55-deep penetrating bombs, so-called bunker busters. And there's some speculation that those bombs could be used in the event Israel decides to launch a military strike against suspected Iranian nuclear development sites.

    Reporter Eli Lake broke the story, and he joins me now. And, Eli, first of all, these were the same bunker busters, I understand, that the Bush administration initially refused to sell to Israel. Remind us of the background here.

    ELI LAKE: Yes. In 2005, the Israelis initially requested this particular kind of bunker buster, which is the top of the line. It can go through 20 feet of solid concrete. And the rationale at the time was deep concerns with Israeli transfers of military technology to China.

    That issue was largely resolved by 2007. And in a secret letter from President Bush to Prime Minister Olmert, Bush agreed to sell the bunker busters. But that sale was then deferred two years into what became the Obama administration. And then Obama, very early in his administration, approved the transfer of 55 out of 100 that had - Bush had agreed to sell Israel in 2009.

    RAZ: You write that the Bush administration did not sell them to Israel because there was concern at the Pentagon that it would send the wrong message about Iran, right?

    LAKE: Well, the original concern was about the China transfer. But later on, the Pentagon did not have this concern, but it was described to me by the just-retired vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General James Cartwright, as a concern the administration that selling the bunker busters openly would send a message to the Iranians that the United States was not interested in the diplomatic outreach that President Obama tried in 2009. And also, it could send a message to Prime Minister Netanyahu that this was, in fact, a green light to attack Iran.

    RAZ: Mm. But why did the Obama administration agree to do it?

    LAKE: I think the Obama administration has done a lot of things continuing with initiatives under President George W. Bush that really drew the Israeli military much closer to the United States. And one example is a concept of trying to link the missile defense systems of the entire Middle East region together in sort of one coherent missile defense group. So that is another thing that Obama has asked the State Department to pursue, again, very quietly, something that's fairly significant in Israel's favor in a sense that missile defense requires far more geographic territory than Israel has to just do it in a national level.

    RAZ: Eli, as you know, there are some American Jewish voters who regard the Obama administration as insufficiently pro-Israel. And I wonder whether this leak or whatever it was by the administration was a deliberate or maybe a subtle attempt to send a message to those voters.

    LAKE: I have to tell you, I don't like to discuss my sources on the air. But I would say that I reported the story and I've been working on this story for some time. I would say that it's off to say that it was politically motivated.

    RAZ: That's Eli Lake, national security correspondent with Newsweek. His story on how the U.S. transferred bunker-busting bombs to Israel back in 2009 will appear in the magazine on Monday. Eli, thanks.

    LAKE: Thank you.

    http://www.npr.org/2011/09/24/140773...ters-to-israel
    "If you think you can get over in this economy, just because you have a Morehouse degree, you are in for a rude awakening."
    -Barack Obama (May 2013) Speech to Morehouse University Students in his fifth year as president


    "We're portrayed by Republicans as either being lying or idiots," said one Obama administration official who was part of the Benghazi response. "It's actually closer to us being idiots."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    It will take 22 strikes to "take out" Iran's power plants... Minimal casualties? I think not.

    What "Muslim" uprising? The whole Arab world is solidly behind a just peace in Palestine.. except Iran.. and Israel.
    I see your definition of minimal casualties is different from mine. And yes, the whole Arab world is behind Palestine. That's a given. I was referring to any additional uprising from the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsited1 View Post
    I see your definition of minimal casualties is different from mine. And yes, the whole Arab world is behind Palestine. That's a given. I was referring to any additional uprising from the norm.
    By whom? The GCC is opposed to Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran's funding of both because those two groups give Israel endless excuses to refuse peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
    By whom? The GCC is opposed to Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran's funding of both because those two groups give Israel endless excuses to refuse peace.
    By the usual groups. They'll continue to lob bombs on Israel and make lots of noise, but I don't see any wars in the offing. (And yes, I'm aware of the GCC.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsited1 View Post
    By the usual groups. They'll continue to lob bombs on Israel and make lots of noise, but I don't see any wars in the offing. (And yes, I'm aware of the GCC.)
    Which "usual groups".. Be specific.

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