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    . As the Quran clearly allows one man to marry up to four wives simultaneously (Quran 4:3), the 'new' Libya has strongly hinted that polygamy will be made legal again, much to the consternation of Libya's supporters abroad and women everywhere.

    Such consternation must be more rampant Islamophobia, right? Perhaps 'liberated' Libya is just trying to keep up with the Joneses, as it were, since much of neighboring Europe has already adapted to polygamous Muslim marriages.

    Hinting at an End to a Curb on Polygamy, Interim Libyan Leader Stirs Anger," by Adam Nossiter, The New York Times, 29 October 2011:



    TRIPOLI, Libya — It was just a passing reference to marriage in a leader’s soberly delivered speech, but all week it has unsettled women here as well as allies abroad.

    In announcing the success of the Libyan revolution and calling for a new, more pious nation, the head of the interim government, Mustafa Abdel-Jalil, also seemed to clear the way for unrestricted polygamy in a Muslim country where it has been limited and rare for decades.

    It looked like a sizable step backward for women at a moment when much here — institutions, laws, social relations — is still in play after the end of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s 42 years of authoritarian rule.
    "A sizable step backwards"? Is Islam not grand, noble, pure, etc. etc.? Is even the New York Times becoming Islamophobic?

    In his speech, Mr. Abdel-Jalil declared that a Qaddafi-era law that placed restrictions on multiple marriages, which is a tenet of Islamic law, or Shariah, would be done away with. The law, which stated that a first wife had to give permission before others were added, for instance, had kept polygamy rare here.

    “This law is contrary to Shariah and must be stopped,” Mr. Abdel-Jalil told the crowd, vowing that the new government would adhere more faithfully to Shariah. The next day he reiterated the point to reporters at a news conference: “Shariah allows polygamy,” he said. Mr. Abdel-Jalil is known for his piety.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/wo...ef=global-home
    Europe Freezes in Demographic Winter, a Europe dying out.

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15318


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    This development sucks.

    Polygamy should be resisted wherever it manifests.

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    No one should be surprised by this. Islamists want this to be the law of the entire human race.

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    perhaps they are reading the teachings of warren jeffs?

    maybe they are becoming more americanized after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liebe View Post
    This development sucks.

    Polygamy should be resisted wherever it manifests.
    there is a time and place for it such as when there is a sizable lack of marriageable males. the problem comes when there's no shortage of males. every man that has two wives leaves one with none.

    i see no problem with it as long as all parties agree. if a man wants another mother-in-law, he deserves whatever he gets.
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    You have just been slapped across the face with the semi-frozen flounder of reality

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    in a place like gaza, i could see polygamy; the males are murdered by the bigots and the women and children are often left destitute.

    I had a mormon bishop tell me that is what brought polygamy into the mormon group as in the 1800's the males were often murdered by the christian wingnuts and the families were left out into the cold.

    So households that could absorb them, would and often a bond occurred between the second women in the house and the head of household (male) that led to premescuity and the leaders suggested that to put the issue on the table within the house, enabled the first wife to approve or disapprove

    ie... I was told, it was the first wife's choice whether the second was allowed to marry her husband.

    didnt say it was right or wrong, i am giving you a scope in the context i was told by a mormom personally

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    Governments should not be involved at all in the voluntary personal relationships between adults but it should prohibit coercive practices such as arranged marriages, period.

    It isn't that "polygamy" is wrong but instead that women are generally forced into these types of marriages.
    When social conservatives of the Republican Party state they want to return to "traditional American values" this is the "traditional American value" that they support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva_TD View Post
    Governments should not be involved at all in the voluntary personal relationships between adults but it should prohibit coercive practices such as arranged marriages, period.

    It isn't that "polygamy" is wrong but instead that women are generally forced into these types of marriages.
    That really wasn't the objective.. In Mohammed's day infant girls all over the Middle East were exposed and left to die.

    Mohammed forbid the exposure of girl babies.. The idea of polygamy was not sexual promiscuity in nature.. It was so that ever maiden aunt, unmarried, sister, widow etc would have the protection of a family, clan and tribe.

    Women have the right to reject any suitor..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liebe View Post
    This development sucks.

    Polygamy should be resisted wherever it manifests.
    I agree

    Very few muslims marry more than one because further down in the Quran chapter it says clearly.
    4.129
    "And you have it not in your power to do justice between wives, even though you may wish it".

    I cannot imagine any woman marrying a Saudi prince as his 30th+ wife.
    Where is her dignity? is she so cheap to be bought then discarded as the others because of his money!

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    YOU HAVE NOT IT IN YOUR POWER

    seems pretty clear to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonGlock26 View Post
    No one should be surprised by this. Islamists want this to be the law of the entire human race.
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    IKHWAN AL SHAITAN

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