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    Army attacks celebrating Syrians with mortar shells

    Opposition activists say that the rebel Free Syrian Army, composed of deserters and responsible for a growing number of attacks against regular security forces, will soon begin filming their ambushes and bomb attacks for posting on the Internet. There are also plans to launch live news reports from activists in flashpoint towns and cities streamed to the Web.

    The stalemate between the Assad regime and the opposition will only strengthen the conviction that the confrontation in Syria will gradually turn into an armed conflict.

    An early indication, perhaps, of the road ahead for Syria was an outbreak of fighting in Tel Kalakh near the Lebanese border today between opposition gunmen and army troops.

    “When we heard about the Arab League deal we all came out on the streets to celebrate, thinking that the army would do nothing. But the army attacked us with mortar shells,” said Omar, a resident of the town who slipped into Lebanon yesterday morning. “The fighting is still going on. No more peaceful protests. There is a real jihad taking place in Tel Kalakh now.”
    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middl...-fire/(page)/2

    Well that didnt take long.
    ""So crucify the ego, before it's far too late
    To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical,
    And you will come to find that we are all one mind
    Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable."-Maynard James Keenan


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    Muhammed said war is deceit, suprise.
    Europe Freezes in Demographic Winter, a Europe dying out.

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15318


    "All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." -

    http://www.geertwilders.nl
    for those who refuse to bow for Jihad and Sharia.

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    Assad becoming more ruthless...

    Syria takes bloody turn; 250 killed in 11 days
    11 Nov.`11 – Syrians snatched from their homes turn up dead, often mutilated. Soldiers gun down former comrades who defected to the opposition. A human rights group reports that electric shocks and hot iron rods are used to torture detainees.
    November is shaping up to be the bloodiest month yet in Syria's 8-month-old uprising. More than 250 Syrian civilians have been killed in the past 11 days as the regime besieges the renegade city of Homs and the conflict takes a dangerous turn, stoking fears of civil war. The U.N. estimates some 3,500 people have been killed in the crackdown since mid-March, when the uprising began. The latest figures would push that number closer to 4,000. The bloodshed has spiked dramatically in recent weeks amid signs that more protesters are taking up arms to protect themselves, changing the face of what has been a largely peaceful movement. Many fear the change plays directly into the hands of the regime by giving the military a pretext to crack down with increasing force.

    There also have been reports of intense battles between soldiers and army defectors, setting the stage for even more bloodshed. Although the crackdown has led to broad international isolation, President Bashar Assad appears to have a firm grip on power. The most serious violence has been in Homs, the epicenter of the uprising, which the regime has been fighting to contain all month. "We have seen urban warfare in some areas where army defections occurred," said Hozan Ibrahim, a spokesman for the Local Coordination Committees, an activist coalition. "The soldiers are having a hard time advancing. They often come under attack from the defectors and this explains why they are shooting more."

    He said the regime is more often using tanks, machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades, because they are fighting army defectors as well as the unarmed protesters. Syria has largely sealed off the country from foreign journalists and prevented independent reporting, making it difficult to confirm events on the ground. In a desperate measure, the regime has begun planting land mines along parts of its border with Lebanon, further closing itself off from the world and showing just how deeply shaken Assad's regime has become. An Associated Press journalist saw Syrian soldiers planting more mines Friday along the border with Lebanon. A Lebanese man lost his leg Friday after stepping on a mine; another man had a foot amputated on Nov. 1 in a similar accident. Syria says the mines are aimed at stopping weapons smuggling into the country during the uprising.

    However, the verdant hills along the frontier are used by refugees fleeing Syria's military assault and by Syrians who have jobs and families on the Lebanese side. The decision to plant mines — terrifying weapons that often maim their victims if they don't kill them — suggests the regime is trying to contain a crisis that is spinning out of its control. Mass protests after Friday prayers, followed by swift and deadly crackdowns by security forces, have become a weekly cycle throughout the uprising. On Friday, Syrian security forces opened fire on protesters and conducted sweeping raids that killed at least 16 people in Homs and elsewhere in the country, activists said. The toll adds to a shockingly bloody November. The Local Coordination Committees said 250 Syrians have been killed since the start of the month, most of them civilians. The British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights also documented more than 250 civilian deaths, but reported that 100 soldiers were also killed.

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    Kinda funny how, instead of a 'sequester', the Wall Street bankers got bailed out.

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    This would be a good time for the neoZionists to withdraw from Syrian territory. A pacifying gesture for the purposes of regional peace.

    Come to think of it, where are all the protests when Zionists kill Syrians ?
    Last edited by moon; Nov 12 2011 at 02:48 AM.
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, .. Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
    Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, ..Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.

    Omar Khayyam


    Zionism is criminal by default.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchClogCyborg View Post
    Muhammed said war is deceit, suprise.
    It's a well known fact that Islam encourages lying to further Islamic causes. And, of course, the Islamofascists try to divert blame on Israel for the crimes of the Assad regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    This would be a good time for the neoZionists to withdraw from Syrian territory. A pacifying gesture for the purposes of regional peace.

    Come to think of it, where are all the protests when Zionists kill Syrians ?
    Could you please explain this logic.

    What makes you think this would pacify the Syrians?

    Whats to protest, when "zionists" have killed syrians its generally the syrians own fault, can you say the same about the 3500 or so that have been killed since March in Syria, by their own govt?
    ""So crucify the ego, before it's far too late
    To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical,
    And you will come to find that we are all one mind
    Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable."-Maynard James Keenan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Bourne View Post
    It's a well known fact that Islam encourages lying to further Islamic causes.
    Please provide evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Fingers View Post
    Please provide evidence.
    Understanding Taqiyya ― Islamic Principle of Lying for the Sake of Allah



    Lying and cheating in the Arab world is not really a moral matter but a method of safeguarding honor and status, avoiding shame, and at all times exploiting possibilities, for those with the wits for it, deftly and expeditiously to convert shame into honor on their own account and vice versa for their opponents. If honor so demands, lies and cheating may become absolute imperatives.” [David Pryce-Jones, “The Closed Circle” An interpretation of the Arabs, p4]


    “No dishonor attaches to such primary transactions as selling short weight, deceiving anyone about quality, quantity or kind of goods, cheating at gambling, and bearing false witness. The doer of these things is merely quicker off the mark than the next fellow; owing him nothing, he is not to be blamed for taking what he can.” [David Pryce-Jones, “The Closed Circle”, p38]


    The word "Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing, precaution, guarding.” It is employed in disguising one's beliefs, intentions, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions or strategies. In practical terms it is manifested as dissimulation, lying, deceiving, vexing and confounding with the intention of deflecting attention, foiling or pre-emptive blocking. It is currently employed in fending off and neutralising any criticism of Islam or Muslims.

    http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Ta...-for-Allah.htm
    Jerusalem appears in the Jewish Bible 669 times...The Christian Bible mentions Jerusalem 154 times. In contrast, Jerusalem appears as frequently in the Qur'an as it does in the Hindu Bhagavad-Gita—which is to say, not once.


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    Not even half the picture from another spurious expert on Islam


    Taqiyya (alternate spellings taqiya, taqiyah, tuqyah), meaning religious dissimulation,[1] is a practice emphasized in Shi'a Islam whereby adherents may conceal their religion when they are under threat, persecution, or compulsion.[2] This means a legal dispensation whereby a believing individual can deny his faith or commit otherwise illegal or blasphemous acts while they are under those risks.[3]


    Luke 22:56 A servant girl saw him seated there in the firelight. She looked closely at him and said, "This man was with him."
    Luke 22:58 A little later someone else saw him and said, "You also are one of them." "Man, I am not!" Peter replied.

    22:54-62 Peter's fall was his denying that he knew Christ, and was his disciple; disowning him because of distress and danger.

    So then, let's see you , despite your bady damaged credibility , turn your expertise to lies within christianity.
    Last edited by moon; Nov 12 2011 at 06:43 AM.
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, .. Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
    Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, ..Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.

    Omar Khayyam


    Zionism is criminal by default.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrRelevant View Post
    Could you please explain this logic.

    What makes you think this would pacify the Syrians?

    Whats to protest, when "zionists" have killed syrians its generally the syrians own fault, can you say the same about the 3500 or so that have been killed since March in Syria, by their own govt?
    Can you?

    You seem to have no problem telling us that its peoples own fault they get killed in this area.
    "but it is nevertheless true that it is value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property. Every proprietor, therefore, of cultivated land owes to the community a ground-rent, for I know no better term to express the idea by, for the land which he holds." -- Thomas Paine, Agrarian Justice

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