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    Quote Originally Posted by KuffsUK View Post
    What are talking about??? What terrorists??? Men in caves? Come on man, get your head out your TV!!

    Do You have evidence on what terrorists you are talking about, except from your amazing bias news outlets, such as Fox. You keep living in fear of men with turbans who live in shanty towns coming to your house and blowing you up. Get Real.

    The fact is, The USA and it's allies continue to kill and enslave thousands of people, and do not care. You're country was attacked on pearl harbour and you nuked TWO cities!!! Killing many many people, of which affects are still evident today.

    You call men in caves "terrorists", the rest of the world calls you terrorists. Does that mean we have the right to come in to your country and kill innocent people everyday for the sake of "war on terror".

    Open your eyes. Stop acting dumb and research from more than bias news outlets.
    LOL Come out of your cave.........the weather is fine!
    “When you call your own country 'lazy' when you are abroad and you call it unambitious and soft when you're home, I think what you are showing is not tough love, but ill-concealed contempt"- Krauthammer


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    America and Pakistan are essentially at war with each other. Pakistan is allied with groups like the Haqqani Network and the Quetta Shura.

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    Pakistani officials said Saturday that NATO aircraft had killed at least 25 soldiers in strikes against two military posts at the northwestern border with Afghanistan, and the country’s supreme army commander called them unprovoked acts of aggression, in a new flash point between the United States and Pakistan."
    I don't see the problem. NATO was doing what it was suppose to be doing: Bombing the enemy. That's what Pakistan is.
    All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. -- Thomas Jefferson

    When the people fear the government there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty -- Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Where was Bin laden killed?
    And what was nearby where he was (which made things all the more interesting).
    Last edited by Roadvirus; Nov 26 2011 at 05:21 PM.
    All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. -- Thomas Jefferson

    When the people fear the government there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty -- Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    And what was nearby where he was (which made things all the more interesting).
    Nato was defending ground troop attacked by Pakistan


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...istan-soldiers

    According to the Kabul-based official, a joint US-Afghan force operating in the mountainous Afghan frontier province of Kunar was the first to come under attack in the early hours of Saturday morning, forcing them to return fire.

    The high death toll from an incident between two supposed allies suggests Nato helicopters and jets strafed Pakistani positions with heavy weapons.

    The deadliest friendly fire incident since the start of the decade-long war also prompted Pakistan to ban Nato supply trucks from crossing into Afghanistan and to issue an order demanding the US quit the remote Shamsi airbase, from which the US has operated some unmanned drone aircraft.

    A spokesman for Nato's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said it was "highly likely" that aircraft which had been called into the area to provide "close air support" to troops on the ground was responsible for causing casualties among the Pakistani soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Nato was defending ground troop attacked by Pakistan


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...istan-soldiers
    This!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flag View Post
    If any other country killed 2 US soldiers it would be an act of war.
    No, it wouldn't.


    "The axe murder incident (Korean: 판문점 도끼 살인 사건 板門店도끼殺人事件,도끼蠻行事件) was the killing of two United States Army officers by North Korean soldiers on August 18, 1976, in the Joint Security Area (JSA) located in the Korean Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) which forms the de facto border between North and South Korea. The killings, credited to Kim Jong-il's power consolidation,[1] and the response three days later (Operation Paul Bunyan) heightened tensions between North and South Korea as well as their respective allies, the Soviet Union, the People's Republic of China, and the United States."


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_murder_incident

    Most Americans consider themselves educated, but they are largely ignorant of American history. Yet, they feel fully qualified to vote for an unvetted community organizer into office as president of the United States. Amazing but true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Where was Bin laden killed?
    Well this assumes, that he actually was killed in Abbottabad, Pakistan. I don't assume anything and i do not listen to illogical statements from my government, i have a brain to process information and realise what is actually going on.

    Remember when Saddam wa caught, that was filmed, remember when he was hanged, that was filmed. Yet we get not even a picture of "the most wanted man" in the world. Hmm strange or then again maybe it's typical USA lies.

    I do not justify in anyway what Bin Ladin did (if he did it), but i believe in innocent until PROVEN guilty, which means not a dodgy rehashed video released by the CIA, but hard evidence only till then can you attack a person and his family and claim him to be a terrorist and the most wanted man.

    The Bin ladin issue is another topic all together.

    You completely ignore the crimes of the US and it's allies and you keep ranting on how men in Afghanistan might kill you, SO BE AWARE! But fail to recognise one atom of pain that the US cause to thousands of innocent people everyday. America is not the only planet on this earth, you know that right?

    What happened on 9/11, lets say it was done by Arab terrorists for the sake of argument, do you remember what else happened on 9/11 a few years before that, which was committed by the USA? or probably not, because the US and it's allies make sure you remember one atom of crime against the US, but please forget what the US do to others.

    If you as an American think your blood is more special and important then other children, women and innocent men's blood in other parts of the world well then this argument is pointless because your a fascist nationalist, if not then research correctly EVERYTHING, not just what you feel like researching.

    I know Hamas have done wrong, i know Pakistan have done wrong, i know communist China do wrong, but we all do wrong, that includes the US more than any other country.

    Don't be blind to your own crimes and fault others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator Monroe View Post
    This!
    Did you even read the article? or just skim through it and pick out what you liked to base your argument on?

    A senior western official said that the Pakistani army attacked NATO first so they returned fire and jets and helicopters helped out.

    The Pakistani military and government say that the army was asleep and NATO attacked them with air fire.

    The Afghan intelligence says thought the NATO-Afghan alliance was attacking the Taliban on the area.

    So we have three completely different stories, that helps no one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KuffsUK View Post
    Well obviously the US has no remorse for its actions, because that suggests regret and regret would at least make you think the US would try harder in not killing civilians or committing unlawful killings left, right and centre. As we all know the US kill anything and everything (you just need a quick internet search), the army kills animals, abuses animals, insults children and kills civilians all day long. The US always make "remorseful" comments, but they mean jack when they continue on the same path of imperialistic destruction of others. What is most annoying is, do you think Iran, Israel, the UK, the US, Germany, France, Italy, China or Russia would allow someone to kill 24 of there soldiers for any reason, let alone no reason and not take ANY action? THE PAKISTAN GOVERNMENT CONTINUE TO BE COWARDLY TO THE US, yes they barred delivery through Pakistan, but how many Pakistanis must die before the government acts and attacks back to defend it's honour and it's people. No country would stand for it, so why do Pakistan?
    Any chance you might mention how the pakistani gov't orchestrates attacks into india and afghanistan, has directed attacks killing american soldiers like the recent massive truck bombing, or are you one of the muslim terror apologists who only pretends to see alleged american actions?

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