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Thread: PA muslim judge allows to attack people for insulting Mohammad

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    Simply unbelievable. Well, what did you expect? He is a muslim first, american distant tenth, a judge sworn to uphold the constitution - dead last.

    Jonathon Turley, a law professor at George Washington University, reports on a disturbing case in which a state judge in Pennsylvania threw out an assault case involving a Muslim attacking an atheist for insulting the Prophet Muhammad.

    Judge Mark Martin, an Iraq war veteran and a convert to Islam, threw the case out in what appears to be an invocation of Sharia law.

    The incident occurred at the Mechanicsburg, Pa., Halloween parade where Ernie Perce, an atheist activist, marched as a zombie Muhammad. Talaag Elbayomy, a Muslim, attacked Perce, and he was arrested by police.

    Judge Martin threw the case out on the grounds that Elbayomy was obligated to attack Perce because of his culture and religion.
    Judge Martin stated that the First Amendment of the Constitution does not permit people to provoke other people. He also called Perce, the plaintiff in the case, a "doofus." In effect, Perce was the perpetrator of the assault, in Judge Martin's view, and Elbayomy the innocent. The Sharia law that the Muslim attacker followed trumped the First Amendment.

    Words almost fail.

    The Washington Post recently reported on an appeals court decision to maintain an injunction to stop the implementation of an amendment to the Oklahoma state constitution that bans the use of Sharia law in state courts. The excuse the court gave was that there was no documented case of Sharia law being invoked in an American court. Judge Martin would seem to have provided that example, which should provide fodder for the argument as the case goes through the federal courts.

    The text of the First Amendment could not be clearer. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof-" It does not say "unless somebody, especially a Muslim, is angered." Indeed Judge Martin specifically decided to respect the establishment of a religion, in this case Islam.

    That Judge Martin should be removed from the bench and severely sanctioned goes almost without saying. He clearly had no business hearing the case in the first place, since he seems to carry an emotional bias. He also needs to retake a constitutional law course. Otherwise, a real can of worms has been opened up, permitting violence against people exercising free speech.

    It should be noted that another atheist, dressed as a Zombie Pope, was marching beside the Zombie Muhammad. No outraged Catholics attacked him.

    http://news.yahoo.com/penn-judge-mus...210000330.html
    Jerusalem appears in the Jewish Bible 669 times...The Christian Bible mentions Jerusalem 154 times. In contrast, Jerusalem appears as frequently in the Qur'an as it does in the Hindu Bhagavad-Gita—which is to say, not once.



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    lol

    #1 He is not a Muslim

    #2 The Muslim man didn't attack him. Watch the video, it's on YouTube, there is no proof the clown was attacked. When he says, "I'm beaing choked" notice how it is said perfectly clearly. All you see is shadows.

    #3 The clown asked for it. He dressed up like that to offend Muslims. So, he got what he wanted. He should know better.

    #4 The judge didn't make anything legal. There was no charges or anything because there was no proof he was assaulted. Quite simple.
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    لا اله الا الله محمد راسول الله
    (There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is His Messenger)
    الله اكبر
    (Allah is Great)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    The first amendment also doesn't allow you to use freedom of speech to yell fire in a theater. I can see the logic behind this judges ruling however it is very shaky at best.

    If the judge believed this costume was worn to incite then yes it would be the person wearing the costume who is at fault. However the other kid should still be charged for assault since he also broke the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OJLeb View Post
    lol

    #1 He is not a Muslim

    #2 The Muslim man didn't attack him. Watch the video, it's on YouTube, there is no proof the clown was attacked. When he says, "I'm beaing choked" notice how it is said perfectly clearly. All you see is shadows.

    #3 The clown asked for it. He dressed up like that to offend Muslims. So, he got what he wanted. He should know better.

    #4 The judge didn't make anything legal. There was no charges or anything because there was no proof he was assaulted. Quite simple.
    #1 He is a Muslim

    #2 The Muslim attacked him.

    3. Man exercised his Constitutional right to a free speech. WTF should he know better? That he should fear Muslims? Betcha, now he know

    4. Judge lectured plaintif on the goodness of Islam, then dismissed the case. Very simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OJLeb View Post
    lol
    #1 He is not a Muslim
    Judge Mark Martin, an Iraq war veteran and a convert to Islam

    #2 The Muslim man didn't attack him.
    Talaag Elbayomy, a Muslim, attacked Perce, and he was arrested by police.

    #3 The clown asked for it. He dressed up like that to offend Muslims. So, he got what he wanted. He should know better.
    Part of the concept of freedom of speech is to do/say things that may be offensive to others. You probably won't understand, it's not part of your culture.

    #4 The judge didn't make anything legal. There was no charges or anything because there was no proof he was assaulted. Quite simple.
    It was not the judge's decision to make, jury makes these decisions. The Judge deprived the plaintiff of his constitutional rights.
    Jerusalem appears in the Jewish Bible 669 times...The Christian Bible mentions Jerusalem 154 times. In contrast, Jerusalem appears as frequently in the Qur'an as it does in the Hindu Bhagavad-Gita—which is to say, not once.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    #1 He is a Muslim
    Do you have evidence to support this idea? His receptionist is said to have stated that he's not a Muslim:

    http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.a...81474981141131

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    And where's this youtube, OJLeb? Why didn't you provide a link? Dude, that's really lazy posting. Pfffft.
    Guess I'll have to find it.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb4h7Qc3oh8"]Muslim Judge Mark Martin of Mechanicsburg PA Lashes Out at Zombie Mohammad - YouTube[/ame]

    This is SO wrong. An assault was excused for the sake of Sharia Law. Plain and simple.
    Why is this radical violent form of Islam coddled in this country? PC and the liberal left's coddling of this dangerous "religion" is harming America and our liberties.
    Last edited by Trinnity; Feb 26 2012 at 08:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    #1 He is a Muslim

    #2 The Muslim attacked him.

    3. Man exercised his Constitutional right to a free speech. WTF should he know better? That he should fear Muslims? Betcha, now he know

    4. Judge lectured plaintif on the goodness of Islam, then dismissed the case. Very simple.
    Quote Originally Posted by Borat View Post
    #1 He is not a Muslim
    Judge Mark Martin, an Iraq war veteran and a convert to Islam

    #2 The Muslim man didn't attack him.
    Talaag Elbayomy, a Muslim, attacked Perce, and he was arrested by police.

    #3 The clown asked for it. He dressed up like that to offend Muslims. So, he got what he wanted. He should know better.
    Part of the concept of freedom of speech is to do/say things that may be offensive to others. You probably won't understand, it's not part of your culture.

    #4 The judge didn't make anything legal. There was no charges or anything because there was no proof he was assaulted. Quite simple.
    It was not the judge's decision to make, jury makes these decisions. The Judge deprived the plaintiff of his constitutional rights.


    #1 Care to prove he is a Muslim?

    #2 Watch the video. He wasn't attacked. All the proof is in the video. The man thought what he was doing was illegal, said he was going to call the cops. He's an immigrant.

    #3 Give me a break with this "freedom of speech" bullsh... It's used by cowards to say whatever they want and not face any consequences. He knew what he was doing, intentionally trying to offend somebody, and he accomplished that.

    #4 So? Regardless, he didn't do what the title of the thread suggests. The decision was made for lack of proof, of course bigots are blind to that.

    Last edited by OJLeb; Feb 26 2012 at 08:28 AM.
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    لا اله الا الله محمد راسول الله
    (There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is His Messenger)
    الله اكبر
    (Allah is Great)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenrichaed View Post
    If the judge believed this costume was worn to incite
    The costume was worn as a deliberate provocation which is fully within the bounds of the person's freedom of speech and fully legal in the US. It was not worn to incite violence, deceive the public or create a safety hazard.
    Jerusalem appears in the Jewish Bible 669 times...The Christian Bible mentions Jerusalem 154 times. In contrast, Jerusalem appears as frequently in the Qur'an as it does in the Hindu Bhagavad-Gita—which is to say, not once.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    And where's this youtube, OJLeb? Why didn't you provide a link? Dude, that's really lazy posting. Pfffft.
    Guess I'll have to find it.

    Muslim Judge Mark Martin of Mechanicsburg PA Lashes Out at Zombie Mohammad - YouTube

    This is SO wrong. An assault was excused for the sake of Sharia Law. Plain and simple.
    Why is this radical violent form of Islam coddled in this country? PC and the liberal left's coddling of this dangerous "religion" is harming America and our liberties.
    Speaking of being lazy.... yaawn...

    [ame="http://youtube.com/watch?v=yP-X3hpCfR8"]Muslim attacks Atheist - YouTube[/ame]

    And you didn't even find it lol
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    لا اله الا الله محمد راسول الله
    (There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is His Messenger)
    الله اكبر
    (Allah is Great)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

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