Thread: Iran caught red handed

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Then we have anonymous diplomats???? Sounds like bogus story of the century.

That's just what I was about to say. Two anonymous guys claim to have seen som trucks and bulldozers and oh, yeah, it's a clean up of radioactive waste after a nuclear explosive test. Don't even mention the fact that a third anonymous guy won't even confirm that.

Although, Iran's past activities still leave me suspicious.

"Yeah, sure you can come visit the site, no problem...(to buddies) just as soon as we raze it to the ground to build a 'park'...hehehehehe."

Iran not bein' above board an' up front...

'Iran is not telling us everything,' U.N. atomic agency chief says
Wed March 7, 2012 - Inspectors want to enter Iran's Parchin military base to investigate evidence of activities there.

Iran is not open about its nuclear program, but it should be, the head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency said Wednesday. "Iran is not telling us everything. That is my impression. We are asking Iran to engage with us proactively, and Iran has a case to answer," said Yukiya Amano, the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Amano told CNN Senior International Correspondent Matthew Chance that Iran has declared a number of nuclear facilities to the IAEA, which has them under its safeguards. "For these facilities and activities, I can tell that they are in peaceful purpose," Amano said. "But there are also, there may be other facilities which are not declared, and we have the indication or information that Iran has engaged in activities relevant to the development of nuclear explosive devices."

Also Wednesday, a Western diplomat here said that the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council, plus Germany -- the so-called P5-plus-1 -- have agreed on a joint statement on Iran, which will be delivered Thursday to the IAEA. "The statement underlines our concerns about Iran's nuclear activities, including its uranium enrichment activities at Natanz and Fordow," the diplomat said. "It calls on the director general of the IAEA to report back on Iran's progress in fulfilling its obligations."

Diplomats at the IAEA say the statement is notable because it represents a unified message from a group that has often had difficulty speaking with one voice. "The hope is it helps isolate Iran and indicates that Russia and China are in the West's camp in calling on Iran to comply," the diplomat said. The United States, France, Britain, China, Russia and Germany agreed Tuesday to resume negotiations with Iran over its nuclear program. Iran signaled a willingness to let international inspectors visit a key military base that international inspectors suspect could be involved in a nuclear weapons program.

More http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/07/world/...ear/index.html

Originally Posted by waltky

Iran not bein' above board an' up front...

'Iran is not telling us everything,' U.N. atomic agency chief says
Wed March 7, 2012 - Inspectors want to enter Iran's Parchin military base to investigate evidence of activities there.

You can't really trust Amano considering he declared himself on the "side" of the United States and will go along with whatever political rhetoric that we start spouting.

Originally Posted by Ozymandias

You can't really trust Amano considering he declared himself on the "side" of the United States and will go along with whatever political rhetoric that we start spouting.

Iran agreed to have inspectors in Parchin late today.

2012 means regime change in Iran and Syria, and they use every possible way to reach that, because they need their empire (AL) completed in the Middle East before the USA is becoming a Roman/German type empire.
The mass media is bringing you the anti Iran/Syria propaganda. They throw more anti Iran/Syria propaganda at the masses then ever before. Iran and Syria are almost daily in the news.
"Iran caught red handed", while yesterday the rethoric of some insiders from the system was to attack Iran. Very obvious.

Originally Posted by Xanadu

2012 means regime change in Iran and Syria, and they use every possible way to reach that, because they need their empire (AL) completed in the Middle East before the USA is becoming a Roman/German type empire.
The mass media is bringing you the anti Iran/Syria propaganda. They throw more anti Iran/Syria propaganda at the masses then ever before. Iran and Syria are almost daily in the news.
"Iran caught red handed", while yesterday the rethoric of some insiders from the system was to attack Iran. Very obvious.

It would be so much easier and less costly to effect regime change in Israel instead.

You can't argue with idiots. It wouldn't matter what Iran did or didn't do.

They would still argue that negative evidence is positive evidence.

As in : "The fact that we cannot find a shred of evidence that Iran is building a nuclear bomb means that they must be hiding their project from us."

Originally Posted by skeptic-f

This sounds too much like the lead-up to Iraq. If you look at the actual, as opposed to the suspected, intelligence, the "diplomats" don't have squat. And why are diplomats giving what amounts to an intelligence briefing? The jump from "clean-up" to "neutron initiator" is just too big without more solid intelligence. Haven't we learned anything from 2003?

maybe a 'taxi driver' told MI6 and CIA they have nuclear weapons

we all know how reliable taxi drivers are

45-minute WMD claim 'may have come from an Iraqi taxi driver'

Tory MP and defence specialist Adam Holloway says MI6 got information indirectly from a taxi driver who had heard Iraqi military commanders talking about weapons

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...md-taxi-driver

Originally Posted by skeptic-f

This sounds too much like the lead-up to Iraq. If you look at the actual, as opposed to the suspected, intelligence, the "diplomats" don't have squat. And why are diplomats giving what amounts to an intelligence briefing? The jump from "clean-up" to "neutron initiator" is just too big without more solid intelligence. Haven't we learned anything from 2003?

Indeed, it is irrelevant what Iran is doing or not doing.

The multinationals want access to Iran's oil reserves, and the USA taxpayers and troops is going to pay the price to make it available to them, just like Iraq.

I filled up all my 5 gallon gas cans today. Its time to get ready.

Originally Posted by Slyhunter

Iran caught red handed

attempted cleanup radioactive traces possibly left by tests of a nuclear-weapon trigger,

They we caugh red-handed removing stuff possibly left by a nuclear weapon trigger.

That would not be my definition of "red handed".