Thread: What Do You Do When Your Daughter Refuses to Read the Distorted Word of God?

Originally Posted by Mandrake

Bull semen is high in protein as well, but I wouldn't try it. I might try the crickets, though, with a glass of flaming gasoline to wash them down.

Then theirs rocky mountain oysters to

Originally Posted by Trinnity

Your lame-ass deflection does not negate the evil and killing that's been done in the name of Allah.

yet so many don’t kill in the name of Allah people have been murdered in the name of the Christian god i don’t like either religion but neither exists just to do what you see as evil

Faith can be used to justify horrible things yet you’re not a horrible person just because you have faith

Originally Posted by Trinnity

Weasel words. Lying to protect Islam is not considered lying. Don't bother, Abu, you cannot convince me of any inherent good in Islam. My mind was made up the second time fundie jihadists tried to bring down the twin towers.

Honestly, Abu, I'd like to think you are an honorable man. BUT I will never trust any Muslim. Why should I?

This:

That’s why i can never trust any human being look what they did now all humans cannot be trusted because some of them can do that

Originally Posted by Mandrake

There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

A non muslim should never believe anything a muslim says to them because it is usually a lie.

Horse hockey. The Muslim is obviously allowed to claim not to be a Musliom where being a Muslim will get him killed.

As for lying for strategic advancement, there is mention of an incident in the Ahaddith concerning a jew in Medina who was trying to stir up trouble with the essenger.

Two very devout Muslims came up with a plan to take out that one trouble maker, rather than have to take on his entire clan. They would gain his confidence and assassinate him privately. But they realized that this would involve lying and had to actually seek the Messenger's permission to do it. The Messenger was not happy with the idea, but gave them the go-ahead for THAT MISSION because it was strategicly important to put down this internal threat with the minimum of bloodshed.

Originally Posted by Trinnity

Islam is the manifestation of the evil men and women can do.
It has no redeeming qualities.

It's brainwashing.

Yes it’s a faith based religion where you let other people and their book tell you what’s right and wrong and not everyone in it tells you the same thing and what people tell you can change over time and be altered by the people who believe part of it

It’s a faith based religion

It can be god bad or most likely a mix of both

It’s a faith based religion

I'm just curious... For everyone who says that they can't trust Muslims, have you read the entire Qu'ran?

I haven't but I am going to over the summer. I think it's a good idea to read all of that before making judgments about Muslims.

Originally Posted by CSWorden3

I'm just curious... For everyone who says that they can't trust Muslims, have you read the entire Qu'ran?

I haven't but I am going to over the summer. I think it's a good idea to read all of that before making judgments about Muslims.

I an ancient book isn't going to give you a picture of a group of people.......it's they way they act which is influanced by their interpration of the Quran

Originally Posted by JP5

It's brainwashing.

To the same extent as is Christianity, Judaism, Shinto, Budhism and Shinto. Start from that premise.

Originally Posted by leftysergeant

To the same extent as is Christianity, Judaism, Shinto, Budhism and Shinto. Start from that premise.

Not so much for Buddhism. The Buddha allegedly said:

"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."