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    12 May 2012


    UNANIMOUS VERDICT: Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal orders reparations be given to torture victims

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    KUALA LUMPUR: Former United States president George W. Bush and his associates were found guilty of crimes of torture by the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal yesterday.


    The tribunal unanimously ruled that the prosecution had proved its case beyond reasonable doubt.

    It said all eight accused had engaged in a web of instructions, memos, directives, legal advice and actions which led to the establishment of a common plan and purpose, joint enterprise and conspiracy to commit crimes of torture and war crimes, in relation to the "War on Terror".


    The War on Terror was launched by the US and others in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    The eight accused are Bush; former US vice-president Richard Cheney; former US defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld; former counsel to Bush, Alberto Gonzales; former general counsel to the vice-president, David Addington; former general counsel to the defence secretary, William Haynes II; former assistant attorney-general Jay Bybee and former deputy assistant attorney-general John Yoo.

    Tribunal president judge Tan Sri Lamin Mohd Yunus said the eight accused were also individually and jointly liable for crimes of torture in accordance with Article 6 of the Nuremberg Charter.


    "The US is subject to customary international law and to the principles of the Nuremberg Charter and exceptional circumstances such as war, instability and public emergency cannot excuse torture."

    The tribunal agreed that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld knew the US was violating the 1984 Torture Convention and the Geneva Conventions but failed to intervene to prevent the violations.

    "Evidence clearly shows the legal opinions and advice given by the lawyers Gonzales, Addington, Haynes, Bybee and Yoo to Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld were legally flawed and the lawyers knew full well their advice was sought to be acted upon and thus are also liable."

    The legal opinions, contained in memorandums, were that the Geneva Conventions did not apply (to suspected al-Qaeda and Taliban detainees); there was no torture occurring within the meaning of the Torture Convention; and that enhanced interrogation techniques, consisting of cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment, were permissable.

    The tribunal ordered that reparations be given to the war crime victims corresponding with the irreparable harm and injury, pain and suffering they had undergone even though the tribunal was merely a tribunal of conscience with no real power of enforcement.

    The findings of the tribunal will be submitted to the International Criminal Court, United Nations and the Security Council and the names of the accused will be entered into the War Crimes Commision's Register of War Criminals.

    Former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, in an immediate response, said the verdict and findings would be publicised globally and sent to heads of government of all nations.

    He also hoped the public would not invite these war criminals to their countries.

    "The International Criminal Court seems to be subservient to the big powers and does not seem to have the capacity or the willingness to charge the leaders of big powers who are responsible for torture, invasion of an independent country, destruction in war and for the killings of so many people," said Dr Mahathir, who is the Perdana Leadership Foundation honorary president.

    He said one step which could be undertaken, especially in democratic nations, was for people to insist that all election candidates should declare that they would never go to war on others.

    Read more: Bush 'guilty of crimes of torture' - General - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general...#ixzz1uelBXV00

    along with their associates and allies!

    Bravo Malaysia and now you need to get them into the Hague along with Bliar and Obama next.

    Problem is Americans and Israelis are not part of the International Justice System. I wonder why?!!!
    "The Nazis made me afraid to be a Jew, and the Israelis make me ashamed to be a Jew."

    Israel Shahak
    Nazi concentration camp survivor


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    Come and get him zipperheads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Bourne View Post
    Come and get him zipperheads.
    My only regret is that I couldn't be there myself to wet KSM's rag for him.

    I would've used petrol and then threw a match. Solve the problem once and for all.

    It would be best for all concerned if KSM "committed suicide" with his bed sheet or something.
    Last edited by SiliconMagician; May 12 2012 at 04:56 AM.

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