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Hizbullah was better

Hizbullah fighters fought more effectively than IDF soldiers

By Ron Ben Yishai

Source : http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...294340,00.html


The balance sheet of the second Lebanon War certainly does not point to an Israel army victory. Even in points, it's closer to a loss than to an achievement, when taking into account the home front's extended suffering.

Indeed, in light of the relative UN good Security Council resolution we received, and possible positive future developments in Lebanon itself, we were not defeated. However, what happened to us is very similar to the defeat suffered by the American military in Vietnam and Iraq, and to the one suffered by the Soviet Union in Afghanistan and the Russians in Chechnya.

I covered some of those wars. I saw from up close how guerilla fighters overcame the most powerful, modern armies in the world because they knew how to fully utilize their intimate familiarity with the war zone and the local population's support.

Yet this isn't the only reason. The guerillas won also because they received unlimited material, planning, and moral support from a patron country or countries.

Another reason: Guerilla fighters consistently avoided a head-on clash with overwhelming air and ground forces and were not embarrassed to hide when needed.

Finally, the guerilla fighters were more highly motivated than their opponents and willing to sacrifice their lives. Because they have something Hezbollah called faith in their rights .

Israeli arrogance
Regular armies stood helpless in the face of guerillas because they failed to formulate an effective combat tactic that would neutralize the "hit and run" advantages of the Vietcong and Mujahideen, and because military units on the ground lacked real-team tactical intelligence that would allow them to take advantage of their superior fire power.

The final straw that led to the militaries' defeat was the heavy losses they suffered without being able to reach a phase where the end of fighting could be seen on the horizon. This is almost precisely what happened to us in Lebanon.

There's plenty of arrogance in the common perception around here that the failure in meeting the ground offensive's objectives was entirely the result of the failures of the political echelon and senior commanders to properly utilize the army.

This argument underestimates the enemy's capabilities and advantages and assumes that had we taken determined decisions and the logistical operation had worked smoothly, we would have won.

This is not the case, however. In my estimate, the ceasefire prevented an even greater ground offensive fiasco. Even if it's unpleasant, we must admit the fact that the Israel army did not achieve victory not so much because of the failed conduct of its leaders, but rather, because Hizbullah was more effective and determined.

Hizbullah's intelligence better

The Shiite organization developed and implemented a combat method that takes maximal advantage of its natural advantages as a popular militia that operates within its natural habitat. Hizbullah also designed its future battlefield through an intimate understanding of Israel army vulnerabilities.

The group prepared in a manner that allowed small cells to take cover and than appear at the time of their choosing equipped with anti-tank missiles, which enabled them to hit tanks and homes used by Israel army infantrymen as cover.

More significant even was the tactical intelligence information gathered by Hizbullah members before, and particularly through, the fighting.

Their information was of better quality than that possessed by the IDF simply because Hizbullah's information gathering was undertaken through the use of eyes and binoculars on the ground in proximity to our forces, and not through pilotless drones and other sophisticated means, which failed to identify, in real-time, rocket launchers and small Hizbullah cells moving from one bunker to the next.

Hizbullah made sure each cell of fighters was able to gather intelligence independently, both for the purpose of accurate rocket attacks (by watching Israeli television reports) as well as for the purpose of fighting IDF troops inside villages (by using observers.)

IDF troops, on the other hand, walked around the villages as if they were blind, because the tactical information gathered before the war was not shared. Moreover, while in the villages, intelligence forces did not gather information methodically.

Frustration can lead to reform

We should also acknowledge the following reality: Hizbullah commanders and fighters were willing to sacrifice their lives in order to complete missions, while IDF commanders and cabinet ministers were virtually panicking every time they received casualty reports and attempted to prevent human losses as if this was the military objective.

A large part of the contradictory, changing orders relayed to troops resulted from this syndrome. At the end, because of the desire to avoid casualties, we suffered even more losses.

We must be merciless in admitting that Hizbullah succeed because it fought more effectively than the IDF in a mountainous area and through a total willingness for sacrifice. When facing those factors, the IDF has no proper combat tactic, just like the Americans and Russians, which would allow it to successfully respond to a super-guerilla featuring the characteristics and equipment of a modern army.

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And yet somehow the Lebanese army and the UN are expected to disarm Hizbollah where Israel could not.

Sure.

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This is the most accurate assessment of the ground action that I have read. Too bad others here couldn't see through the fog of war like you have.

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roger waters

completely as well. Granted it was a war on Hezbullah's turf, which they have been digging in for for 6 years. I'd love that sort of advantage. Come into Israel Hezbullah, more then 20 meters this time please. We'll see exactly what the scorecard looks like then. I think Israel did the only thing it could under the circumstances, which is let Lebanon know that they are responsible for activities rooted on their sovreign ground. The only other option would be soooo bad that you'd be complaining about that as well. So it's either napalm and mine Southern Lebanon, or make Lebanon step up. Hezbulah is as much Lebanon's problem as it is Israel's.

completely as well. Granted it was a war on Hezbullah's turf, which they have been digging in for for 6 years. I'd love that sort of advantage. Come into Israel Hezbullah, more then 20 meters this time please. We'll see exactly what the scorecard looks like then. I think Israel did the only thing it could under the circumstances, which is let Lebanon know that they are responsible for activities rooted on their sovreign ground. The only other option would be soooo bad that you'd be complaining about that as well. So it's either napalm and mine Southern Lebanon, or make Lebanon step up. Hezbulah is as much Lebanon's problem as it is Israel's.

Point very well stated and agreed upon......

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We Should Say that Israel is the Problem For Lebanon , Not Hezbollah .If Israel Withdrawn from South of Lebanon Since They Ended the Invasion on 1982 . Hezbollah Wouldn't have the Right to Fight to Free Lebanese Lands , if Israel release Arab POW , Hezbollah Wouldn't Took the Two Soldiers , if Israel Stops Attacking Villages in South of Lebanon , Hezbollah Rockets won't fall on northern Palestine , it is a matter of Response .

There were probably dozens of different responses Isreal could have made. To say that the only one was to destroy Lebanon's infrastructure is what is called Tunnelvision.

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roger waters

Well really there is no point stating the obvious. Hezbollah was more effective. Hezbollah had the advantage of hiding, but Israeli citizens didn't. (which Hezbollah was aiming at) Showing that one person has a certain opinion still proves nothing.

In my opinion, another obvious idea, but I would not go far enough to call it arrogance.
Another advantage for Hezbollah. This is a great article.
Frustration can lead to reform
OK, well thats a pretty obnoxious thing to say, this guy just complains about how ineffective Israel was. If he's so smart, what could Israel have done better against this "super guerilla"?

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