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Old 09-01-2006, 04:18 PM
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Hobo, you are the one that sounds insecure about the role of women in modern America. I'm sorry you feel you have to pigeonhole over half the population of America into a stereotype that used to be accepted, but I don't see how that makes all the women in question insecure. Perhaps you should find your certainty by joining the Fundamentalist Latter-Day Saints and get yourself a couple of wives never exposed to television, magazines or radio.
Agreed. His post reads like an option from a satirical political test I saw, "Face it. Men were meant to be Neanderthals and women their caretakers". Perhaps Hobo should read a bit of European history. Elizabeth I, Catherine the Great and Margaret Thatcher are all examples of women who were far stronger leaders by nature than most men. A person's level of leadership ability is largely inborn, I believe, but it bears no relationship to gender. The reactionary response would be, "Then why did men do most of the leading historically?". The gender inequality of societal leadership is residual from a time in which, for evolutionary purposes, physical size and strength were of great importance, making men, who are usually larger and stronger, the leaders by default. We now live in a mechanized and intellectual world. There is no reason for men to have any more leadership roles than women. I write as a man, by the way.

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As for you, Righty, women are not a minority. They are 52 out of every 100 Americans. It says something about your thought processes that you thought they were a minority. No doubt you treat them the way you do the real minorities, which, judging from your posts, means you treat them badly.
Ignore Righty. He is just trolling to irritate other posters. Righty posts bizarre, irrelevant insults in threads on just about every subject.
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Democrats don't all vote with one mind. Neither do Republicans. Not all conservatives like Bush and some liberals hated Kerry AND Gore. Men aren't all neanderthals who are trying to enslave some woman and keep her locked up in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant. Many women do indeed have it all, yet not all have the opportunity nor the ability to pull it off.

Judging huge chunks of people on the bases of a few isolated examples is silly and pointless. People are individuals.

For example, I'm different and unique.... just like everybody else!
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Hobo, you are the one that sounds insecure about the role of women in modern America. I'm sorry you feel you have to pigeonhole over half the population of America into a stereotype that used to be accepted, but I don't see how that makes all the women in question insecure. Perhaps you should find your certainty by joining the Fundamentalist Latter-Day Saints and get yourself a couple of wives never exposed to television, magazines or radio.
If you read my post, I am not "pigeonholing" anybody. I am trying to take a clear, evidence based look at the status of women in our society today. It is only fitting and proper that people of both genders look at this issue as objectively as possible. I am not condemning or criticizing, I am only searching for the facts so that we may better understand the role in women in America today. It is not a psychological defect in my character
for me to look at this issue. You can agree or disagree with me, but don't shine me off with the excuse that I am a deviant. Address the issue, forget the ad hominem attacks.
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Hillary will not be the first female president.
She has about as much chance of winning a Presidential run as John Kerry does if he chose to run again.

Rice could possibly but she doesn't seem interested.
ATM theres pretty much no other female(least any I can think of atm) who would or could win.




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I'm pretty sure Hillary will be talked out of running by her party. Unless the Crats really are that stupid.
They are.

She will run.
For the Democrats to talk her out of it would basically mean they will be even dumber and throw their weight behind some radical...could happen I suppose... in the unlikely event that they make modest gains this year.


Its pretty bad for the Democrats atm in 2008..they have the radicals making the most noise and the moderate is Hillary..who generally polls with about 40% saying they wouldn't vote for her over anyone.
Throw in McCain and barring something profound changing..pretty much no Democrat stands a chance.
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I think if Hillbillary had some breast implants it would help her. That, and keeping Chelsea hidden.
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Look how Democrats judge someone based on their sex and race. How sexist and racist of Democrats.
For every Crat that will vote for a woman only for being woman there's a Pub that will vote for a man....
You will never mentally mature.
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As for you, Righty, women are not a minority. They are 52 out of every 100 Americans. It says something about your thought processes that you thought they were a minority. No doubt you treat them the way you do the real minorities, which, judging from your posts, means you treat them badly.
As for you, skeptic, voting for someone simply because they have boobs is sexist. Just like voting for someone that is black because you are black is racist. Democrats are racist and sexist because that is sometimes the only criteria when they vote.
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As for you, Righty, women are not a minority. They are 52 out of every 100 Americans. It says something about your thought processes that you thought they were a minority. No doubt you treat them the way you do the real minorities, which, judging from your posts, means you treat them badly.
Ignore Righty. He is just trolling to irritate other posters. Righty posts bizarre, irrelevant insults in threads on just about every subject.
Ignore ForceoftheTruth, he is just boorish. ForceoftheTruth is full of so many cliches, I know exactly what he will say from one sentence to the next.
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[color=blue]Democrats don't all vote with one mind. Neither do Republicans. Not all conservatives like Bush and some liberals hated Kerry AND Gore. Men aren't all neanderthals who are trying to enslave some woman and keep her locked up in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant. Many women do indeed have it all, yet not all have the opportunity nor the ability to pull it off.

Judging huge chunks of people on the bases of a few isolated examples is silly and pointless. People are individuals.
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Not to Democrats. Democrats in this very thread are pondering voting for a women simply because she has boobs.
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Hillary will not be the first female president.
She has about as much chance of winning a Presidential run as John Kerry does if he chose to run again.
The first female president, if any, will be conservative and not some whore-(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) like Hillary who will screw anyone for political gain (Clinton).
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