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Old 09-16-2006, 11:54 AM
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Default UK, US Dailies Censure "Ill-Advised" Pope

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At The Time World Needs More Talking . That Irresponsible Man Tease Muslim People By His Words . That’s Great . Another Round of Violent Riots will Start Soon . Another way to Destroy The Picture of Islam . Another Way to Ruin Everything world made to Get together !!

The Question is ? Why People Attack Islam These Days Using any possible Way !!! is it the same old Struggle . Hmm No it is a new one !!

Editorials in leading US and UK dailies censured Saturday, September16, Pope Benedict XVI' for his anti-Islam rant, saying that the comments reflected poor judgment and risk deepening Islam-West rift.

British The Guardian said there might have been less protest had Benedict a clearer record in favor of dialogue with Islam.

"As a cardinal in the Holy See, he was known to be skeptical of John Paul II's pursuit of conversation. One of his earliest decisions as pope was to move archbishop Michael Fitzgerald, one of the Catholic Church's leading experts on Islam, and head of its council on interreligious dialogue, away from the centre of influence in Rome, and send him to Egypt as papal nuncio," it said.

It also cited the pope's outspoken opposition to the admission of Turkey into the European Union, saying that his planned visit to Istanbul was no unlikely.
Speaking at the University of Regensburg on Tuesday, Benedict quoted criticism of Islam and Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) by 14th century Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Palaeologus, who wrote that everything Muhammad brought was evil and inhuman, "such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

In his inaugural speech last year, the pope ignored Islam and hailed the "great spiritual heritage" shared by Jews and Christians.
Benedict recently backpedaled on calling the July 7 London transport bombings "anti-Christian" after an early draft of a Vatican statement condemning the bombings included the inflammatory phrase.

Instead, a final version approved by the pope stopped at referring to the blasts as "barbaric acts against humanity."

Bad Example

The Guardian said the pope was quoted the wrong person when he talked about Islam and Prophet Muhammad.

"Manuel II Palaeologus (1350-1425) was hardly an impartial observer of Islam. No academic impartiality lay behind the assertion, repeated by the Pope in his lecture in Regensburg earlier this week, that all that was new in Muhammad's thought was "evil and inhuman", citing conversion under threat of the sword as an example," it said.

And the paper ridiculed the pope for the example he cited.

The Pope used this to kick off a discussion of God and reason rather as a parish priest might casually preface his Sunday homily with a reference to the storyline of EastEnders. It is unsurprising that it caused offence," it said, referring to the popular BBC television soap opera.

The offensive remarks have stirred uproar in the Muslim world with Muslim scholars blaming the pontiff's words for his ignorance of Islam.

Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, the head of the International Union for Muslim Scholars (IUMS), said on Friday the pope's words reflected ignorance of the basic tenets of Islam.

Din Syamsuddin, chairman of Muhammadiyah, the second largest Islamic organization in Indonesia, agreed.

"The Pope's statements reflect his lack of wisdom. It is obvious from the statements that the Pope doesn't have a correct understanding of Islam," Syamsuddin told Reuters.

"Tragic and Dangerous"

The New York Times also published an editorial Saturday, in which it called the pope's remarks about Islam "tragic and dangerous" and urged him to apologize.

The paper said this was "not the first time the pope has fomented discord between Christians and Muslims."

"A doctrinal conservative, his greatest fear appears to be the loss of a uniform Catholic identity, not exactly the best jumping-off point for tolerance or interfaith dialogue," the editorial said.

"The world listens carefully to the words of any pope," The Times continued. "And it is tragic and dangerous when one sows pain, either deliberately or carelessly. He needs to offer a deep and persuasive apology, demonstrating that words can also heal."

A growing chorus of Muslim leaders worldwide were united Friday, September 15, in insisting on a personal apology from Pope Benedict over his comments.

They said that the pope should apologize personally and not through Vatican sources, to all Muslims for such a wrong interpretation.

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Old 09-16-2006, 12:06 PM
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His comments were mild enough.

Perhaps our media would care to publish some of the murderous and inflammatory ravings from Muslim clerics.

If the Muslims dont like it, tough.

Screw Islam.

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His comments were mild enough.

Screw Islam.

That upset you?
No ... it won't upset me . Who Cares about your Posts . Am Ambitious to Hear Reasonable People .. Not You . Sorry Wrong Post !! Try To Find Somewhere Else to Spread Your Hate & Anger !!

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Islam can't handle non-muslim freedoms, like freedom of expression, if someone puts down their beliefs they get all bent out of shape... Instead of acting out, burning down churches and bombing people(it didn't work for the KKK, it's not going to work for Islam) They should show themselves to be peaceful and accepting of other peoples freedoms and beliefs... Instead this is going to turn into another Cartoom riot thing and they will just prove those words to be true...As the rest of the world advances they keep stepping back..
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I don't think anyone should say their sorry for what they said, a line needs to be drawn in the sand, after the Muslims killed the writer of the Satanic Verses, and the formal aplogy for the Mohamad Cartoons the western world keep giving up ground and empowering these barbarians.. We are near the point of breaking and if he are not careful we will pass the point of no return and things will have to get very ugly to restore a balance...
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Is this an actual artixle omaraqa ?! The English is atrocious !!

And not a single Muslem leader can explain away the fact that the Pope is right. Islam was forced onto others by the sword by Muhamed and still is. It's happening in Africa and Asia currently. Why just a few weaks ago the two Fox journalists where forced to convert to Islam at gunpoint !! So why are Muslems so upset ? The Pope is actually telling the truth about the nature of Islam and the violent man that began the cult !! Hufffnstuff, relix, and myself don't seem fooled for a second by Muslems being upset ... Are we all "unreasonable people" ?! Not by a long shot !! It is islam that spreads "Hate & Anger !!". Sorry brother ... not fooling anyone.
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Minor point, Relix: Salman Rushdie is still alive. That fatwa was still indefensible, of course.
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Sorry Omar----but YOU Muslims need to change a LOT of your religious leaders! The Pope didn't incite violence and advocate Christians go out and kill Muslims as SOME of YOUR leaders do. So, it's BEST for you to TEND to your own and try to straighten them out before going off on anybody else!!
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Minor point, Relix: Salman Rushdie is still alive. That fatwa was still indefensible, of course.
My bad, I guess I have my facts mixed up, who was the Dutch man killed by the muslims in the streets of the Netherlands and had a Jihad note stuck to his chest with a knife.... He mad some movie or something about Islam or wrote a book about it and was murdered for his viewpoint...
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omaraqa, just get accustomed to being offended. That is freedom. You can offend me or I can offend you and we don't have to hurt or kill anyone over it.
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