The Republican administration and the Republican Senators have settled all their differences; dont believe me? well, look for yourselves -

"In a telling move, during a call with reporters today, National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley would not even answer a question about whether waterboarding would be permitted under the agreement."

On the other hand one of the Republican senators, Lindsey Graham from South Carolina, said of waterboarding, in which a prisoner is subjected to the sensation of drowning: "It is a technique that we need to let the world know we are no longer engaging in."

Even at this late stage, it seems, there is no final clarity."

uh, well, y'know...they kinda did, with just a few grey areas around the issue of TORTURE...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5370482.stm

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If water-boarding isn't permitted and it's been done in the past, I would think that there would be some legal ramifications for anyone involved in these procedures. Maybe that's why the right is so worried and is attempting to make torture acceptable and mainstream.

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I've been informed....don't blame Bush, he's "not in control"
That must make him out of control

Good!!! Thank God some people in our government still have some common sense.

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Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Simple minded fool says: (name withheld to save embarassment)
The12thMan said:
Happens on both sides... back to the point.

If in the year 2070 we go to War with Britain, do you want them waterboarding our soldiers? Apparently its so awful CIA opperatives can not withstand it for more than 14 seconds. Is this what you want for our soldiers?
Or would you rather have them treated according to Geneva rules?

Do you hate American soldiers so much that you want them to be tortured?

I personally would like to protect American soldiers and citizens by not having them tortured by unforseen enemies in the future. I guess you couldn't give a FF about how our soldiers get treated.

You know what would really protect our citizens. Genocide on every other country. Use nukes and our #1 Army to kill every living being who isn't a naturalized US citizen. Then we would be safe for sure.

If you don't believe in that, than I can assume by your moronic logic, that you would rather protect terrorists than US citizens. Please feel free to prove me wrong.

Ixtellor

P.S. Mayberry

Our captured soldiers are tortured, fool. They're trained to expect torture if they're ever captured and how to deal with it. What an idiotic position.

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Winston Churchill

I just had to put that quote on the best of Political Forum!

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

Do you seriously believe that this has anything at all to do with how our soldiers are treated (past, present, or future)? Is it possible that you believe that this will cause our soldiers to be treated well? Do you believe reports of torture will stop?

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Do you know what it's like to fall in the mud and get kicked... in the head... with an iron boot? Of course you don't, no one does. It never happens. It's a dumb question... skip it.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...ioning/?page=2

The above is the equivalent to Bush lost huh? You all have an interesting interpretation of the English language...aka spinning.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

They loves the torture!


Father.. Forgive them for they know not what they do. -some guy being tortured

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"When I'm in command, every mission is a suicide mission!" -Capt. Zapp Branigan
The United Church of the Latter Day Tangential Tarts

'evil people to justice'

May W reap what he has sown.

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At least we have each other to talk to.