Thread: Muslims in Britain beaing taught anti-semtism and Sharia

Originally Posted by dixon76710

Originally Posted by Art_Allm


Muslims do not hate Jews because they believe that Jews are Semites. Muhammed was a Semite, and the Koran is written in a Semitic language.

No one claimed they did.

Thanks, it seems that you already agree that Zionists are not hated because of their alleged "Semitism".

It is obvious that the term "Anti-Semitic" is just a misnomer which is misused to denigrate Semites who are fighting against European occupants who claim to be Semites.

Marr really believed that Jews are Semites (because Jews claimed that they are Semites), and he really called non-Semitic people who hated them - Anti-Semites.

And that is the reason why these foolish Zionists believe that real Semites can also be Anti-Semitic, though Marr never used the term "Anti-Semitic" in this silly way, he never used the term anti-Semitic to label Semites.

Originally Posted by Art_Allm

Some Germans called themselves Anti-Semites, because some Jews called themselves Semites.

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Muslims do not hate Jews because they believe that Jews are Semites. Muhammed was a Semite, and the Koran is written in a Semitic language.

This is drivel. Much as I'm tickled by the idea of Jew-haters looking for a word acceptable to Jews to describe their hatred of all things Jewish, it's drivel.

Which Jews "called themselves Semites"? What Muslim calls the prophet "a Semite"?

Linguists, following Ernest Renard, describe a family of languages as "semitic". Nobody is "a Semite" any more than anyone is "a Nilo-Saharan" or "a Cush-ite".

Originally Posted by Red

This is drivel. Much as I'm tickled by the idea of Jew-haters looking for a word acceptable to Jews to describe their hatred of all things Jewish, it's drivel.

No, the opposite is true. Zionists tried to hide their own crimes and hate against Semites, calling them "Anti-Semites", and inventing silly terms, like Islamo-Faschism, trying to establish an association with the Third Reich.

Red, you are unable to disprove my arguments, and that is the only reason why you attack the messenger and use "arguments", like "it's drivel".

You have to prove that my arguments are wrong, dude!

Originally Posted by Red

Which Jews "called themselves Semites"?

Moriz Steinschneider, for example. Moses Hess also believed that Jews are a race, and so did Albert Einstein.

All these prominent people believed that Jews are a separate Semitic race.

Red, I cannot believe that you have no idea about what Moses Hess wrote in his works that had a great influence on the budding Zionist mythology.

Even the smallest people, whether it belongs to the Germanic or Romance, Slavic or Finnic, Celtic or Semitic races, as soon as it advances its claims to a place among the historical nations, will find sympathetic supporters in the powerful civilized Western nations.

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The greatest and most dangerous enemy of the Jewish religion in antiquity was the religion of gross sensualist, the material love of the Semites, namely, Baal worship"

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The most ancient Egyptian monuments depict negroes as well as Indo-Germanic and "Semitic " types, races which have lived from time immemorial in the same land and which were likewise scattered in different countries and climates, yet their primal types have not undergone any perceptible changes.

The languages of those nations with whom our civilization originated belong to two primal races, the Indo-Germanic and the Semitic.

The ancient culture of the former reached its culminating point in Greece; of the later, in Judaea. In these two countries the typical antithesis between the Indo-Germanic and Semitic races reached its highest point, and the fundamental differences in the views of life of these two races were expressed in the classical works of the Hellenes and Hebrews.

http://www.zionismontheweb.org/Moses..._Jerusalem.htm

And Disraeli even called Jews "Mosaic Arabs".

Jews hated the European civilization and they believed that Jews are part of Oriental (Semitic) civilization.

They even believed that all Semites must unite and fight the hated European civilization.

That was before Zionists created Israel and the real oriental Semites became their worst enemies.

With accusations of antisemitism flying around, and against the poisonous backdrop of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it will probably surprise many to learn that not so long ago many prominent Jewish thinkers believed in a natural affinity between Judaism and Islam, and looked eastwards for their salvation.

Benjamin Disraeli, the first and only British prime minister of Jewish extraction, described Jews as "Mosaic Arabs".
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This is perhaps unsurprising given that, prior to the Enlightenment, the Muslim world was the most tolerant and permissive place to be a Jew, despite occasional episodes of local oppression.
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The Enlightenment and liberalism had served the emancipation of European Jews well, despite its assimilationist pressures. However, Jews, no matter how well assimilated, were still regarded by many as outsiders.
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"During the Enlightenment Jews and Muslims had begun to merge in the European mind," Reiss notes. "Many Jews of northern Europe saw in this redefinition of themselves as Asians an opportunity to escape their demeaning European image as insular, persecuted ghetto dwellers."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...themosaicarabs

Today these hypocrites, who call themselves Zionists and claim to be Semites, talk about a common Jewish-Christian civilisation that is allegedly opposed to the Semitic (speak Arab-Muslim) civilization, because they need the support of Europeans to fight oriental (speak real) Semites.

So these fools really believe that they can hide their hatred against oriental Semites behind a smoke screen, which they call "Anti-Semitism", but which is in reality hate against Zionism and occupation (speak Anti-Zionism).

Originally Posted by Abu Sina

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Well, that is the problem with any religion.

There are a lot of contradictions in all religious books, and the New Testament is not an exception.

On the one hand Jesus says that a Christians has to love his enemies, and on the other he talks about the sword.

That is why I do not care about any religion, though some idiots in this forum believe that I am a Muslim.

Originally Posted by Art_Allm

Thanks, it seems that you already agree that Zionists are not hated because of their alleged "Semitism".

It is obvious that the term "Anti-Semitic" is just a misnomer which is misused to denigrate Semites who are fighting against European occupants who claim to be Semites.

You are making alot of assumptions about the creator of the threads intentions. I suspect its just as likely he used it because here in America, the German Nazi definition of anti semitism stuck here. I read the title and understand perfectly exactly what he is refering to. ANTI JEW! Didnt need to read the article or even the opening post to know that the kids werent being taught to be anti people who speak a semitic language but instead anti jew.

Originally Posted by Art_Allm

No, the opposite is true. Zionists tried to hide their own crimes and hate against Semites, calling them "Anti-Semites", and...

Right, I'll just stop you there.

You claimed that "anti-semites" named themselves that way because they respected how Jews had, according to you, begin to call themselves "Semites". Now you say that Zionists invented the term "anti-semite".

You're all over the shop now. Get some rest and come back when you can sustain an argument across two consecutive posts, okay?

Originally Posted by Red

Right, I'll just stop you there.

You claimed that "anti-semites" named themselves that way because they respected how Jews had, according to you, begin to call themselves "Semites". Now you say that Zionists invented the term "anti-semite".

No, I said that Zionists perverted the original meaning of the scientific term Anti-Semitic and invented such expressions, like Arab or Muslim Anti-Semitism, which means Semitic Anti-Semitism.

Originally Posted by Red

You're all over the shop now. Get some rest and come back when you can sustain an argument across two consecutive posts, okay?

That is all what you can do: attack the messenger because you are unable to disprove the message.

I do not believe that you are ignorant and do not know that Moses Hess and other prominent Jews believed that Jews are a Semitic race.

I could easily prove that with quotes, but you continue spamming and attacking me personally, instead of addressing my arguments.

Red, if you want to be taken seriously, then be more factual.

Your posts indicate that you are trying to hide from the truth.

Your use of the term "Anti-Semitism" as a pro-Zionist slur is worn out.

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Originally Posted by dixon76710

You are making alot of assumptions about the creator of the threads intentions. I suspect its just as likely he used it because here in America, the German Nazi definition of anti semitism stuck here.

What?

Whilhelm Marr was a "Nazi"?

That is what Hollywood tells to these pathetic Americans, who cannot find Germany on the map?

Originally Posted by Phoebe Bump

>>>Nothing in the NT that I can see. Just that it was routine in the OT. 'Eye-for-an-eye" and all that good stuff.

Sounds like you have a first grade understanding of Eye for an eye

Originally Posted by Art_Allm

Anti-Semitism became a meaningless word, especially after Zionists started labelling Semites as "Anti-Semites".

Your opinion doesn't change and hasn't changed the general usage and understanding of the term. It does, however, serve as a convenient tactic at derailing the subject of this thread, which concerns British Muslims teaching their children to hate Jews.

Relevant to this subject, and having seen the hidden-camera footage of some of these videos that leaked out, it is clear that this hate-mongering is not limited to Jews - it is directed towards non-Muslims in general. It is much like the hate-mongering that the Saudis have been promulgating in American mosques:

SAUDI PUBLICATIONS ON HATE IDEOLOGY INVADE AMERICAN MOSQUES
http://www.freedomhouse.org/uploads/..._report/45.pdf