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    Default Egypt: Coptic Christian student beaten to death by Muslim teacher and classmates

    More tolerance from the religion of peace. The attacks on Christians in the Middle East is nothing short of genocide. This will never be reported by our liberal media outlets, though.

    In mid-October Egyptian media published news of an altercation between Muslim and Christian students over a classroom seat at a school in Mallawi, Minya province. The altercation lead to the murder of a Christian student. The media portrayed the incident as non-sectarian. However, Copts Without Borders, a Coptic news website, refuted this version and was first to report that the Christian student was murdered because he was wearing a crucifix.

    "We wanted to believe the official version," said activist Mark Ebeid, "because the Coptic version was a catastrophe, as it would take persecution of Christians also to schools." He blamed the church in Mallawi for keeping quiet about the incident.

    Today the parents of the 17-year-old Christian student Ayman Nabil Labib, broke their silence, confirming that their son was murdered on October 16, in "cold blood because he refused to take off his crucifix as ordered by his Muslim teacher." Nabil Labib, the father, said in a taped video interview with Copts United NGO, that his son had a cross tattooed on his wrist as per Coptic tradition, as well as another cross which he wore under his clothes.

    Both parents confirmed that Ayman's classmates, who were present during the assault and whom they met at the hospital and during the funeral, said that while Ayman was in the classroom he was told to cover up his tattooed wrist cross. He refused and defiantly got out the second cross which he wore under his shirt. "The teacher nearly chocked by son and some Muslim students joined in the beating," said his mother.

    According to Ayman's father, eyewitnesses told him that his son was not beaten up in the school yard as per the official story, but in the classroom. "They beat my son so much in the classroom that he fled to the lavatory on the ground floor, but they followed him and continued their assault. When one of the supervisors took him to his room, Ayman was still breathing. The ambulance transported him from there dead, one hour later."

    Prosecution arrested and detained two Muslim students, Mostapha Essam and Walid Mostafa Sayed, pending investigations in the murder case.

    The father said that everyone in Mallawi knew how the event took place, but not one of the students' parents was prepared to let their children come forward and give a statement to the police. "They are afraid of the school administration, which has lots of ways to harass the students, as well as being afraid of the families of the two Muslim killers."

    "I insist that the Arabic teacher, the headmaster, and the supervisors should be charged as well as the two students who committed the crime," said Nabil. "The Arabic language teacher incited the students to attack my son, the headmaster who would not go to the classroom to see what is going on there when alerted to the beatings, but rather said to be left alone and continued sipping his tea, and the supervisors who failed in their supervising duties."

    Prosecution has three witnesses, two men working at school who named the assailants and one student who wanted to retract his statement, but was refused."

    "The evidence is under lock and key. Everyone is hiding the evidence. We will know the truth after forensic medicine has finished the report next week," said Nabil, adding that the head of detectives on the case tried to influence the witnesses, claiming that the murder took place as a result of friction between students."
    www.aina.org/news/20111030133621.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewskier View Post
    More tolerance from the religion of peace. The attacks on Christians in the Middle East is nothing short of genocide. This will never be reported by our liberal media outlets, though.



    www.aina.org/news/20111030133621.htm
    So what classifies a media outlet as 'liberal' in your eyes?

    As far as I could tell this event has indeed only been reported by jihadwatch that in turn took it from Pamela Geller who in turn took it from The Assyrian International News Agency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria...al_News_Agency) whose link to it seems to be dead. None of these sources could be described as neutral by any stretch of the imagination, they all have a pretty clear agenda.

    But for the sake of argument let's work on the premise that this is indeed a reliable and totally factual report on what happened.

    How does the horrible killing of this one student constitute a "genocide"? I'm sure that if a genocide such as in Rwanda, Armenia, Nazi-Germany was happening all our media, including the 'liberal' ones would be reporting on it and would be eager to name it as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewskier View Post
    More tolerance from the religion of peace. The attacks on Christians in the Middle East is nothing short of genocide. This will never be reported by our liberal media outlets, though.



    www.aina.org/news/20111030133621.htm
    I used to associate with Muslims, but not anymore. On almost every page, the Koran instructs observant Muslims to despise nonbelievers. On almost every page, it prepares the ground for religious conflict. There is a direct link between the Muslim faith and Muslim violence. Just as I avoid certain violent neighborhoods in my city, I avoid Muslims for the same reason.

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    dont like to see a death over such an issue but i like the idea that teachers will kick a kids butt versus the kids bringing guns to school, like here in my country.

    in american, our kids can have a bad day and wipe out a class room with assault weapons.

    Sorry to hear about the death though.

    Most likely, the claim is BS as the idiots on this forum, bring in all kinds of garbage just to talk bad about muslims.

    Heck, i would bet there are more murders and rapes on the streets of the US in one weekend than most muslim countries have in a year
    If existence only operates ONE way, is the math the name to know?

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    Speaking as an Egyptian.
    This has nothing to do with religion.

    It is all about respecting rules and respecting teachers and elders.
    Note it was the students not the teacher who reacted.
    To show disrespect to elders is a very bad thing in this culture.

    Of course the result was a catastrophe if this sotry is even true but it shows the feeling of students when an elder and rules are being disrespected.
    If not a cross it could easily have happened over anything when a student defies an elder in authority.
    The class would not tolerate that disrespect shown to the elder.
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    Most likely, the claim is BS as the idiots on this forum, bring in all kinds of garbage just to talk bad about muslims.
    That is the depth of their ' politics' , yes. The forum is a soapbox for the New Klan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Sina View Post
    Speaking as an Egyptian.
    This has nothing to do with religion.

    It is all about respecting rules and respecting teachers and elders.
    Note it was the students not the teacher who reacted.
    To show disrespect to elders is a very bad thing in this culture.

    Of course the result was a catastrophe if this sotry is even true but it shows the feeling of students when an elder and rules are being disrespected.
    If not a cross it could easily have happened over anything when a student defies an elder in authority.
    The class would not tolerate that disrespect shown to the elder.
    Disrespect for elders includes a death sentence?

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    Could also be this reason

    Farida El-Shobashy
    “left it to teachers to spread the fanatic Wahabi ideology.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liebe View Post
    Disrespect for elders includes a death sentence?
    not at all but the other students would not have liked to see an elder being disrespected
    that is not in our culture
    they are peasants in a village setting

    could also be wahabi ideology which is causing problems in our country

    many factors

    It's murder plain and simple though

    He refused and defiantly got out the second cross which he wore under his shirt.
    not a good move
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Sina View Post
    not at all but the other students would not have liked to see an elder being disrespected
    that is not in our culture
    they are peasants in a village setting

    could also be wahabi ideology which is causing problems in our country

    many factors

    It's murder plain and simple though


    not a good move

    You appear to me to be justifying what the students did.

    That is worrying.

    Taking out a cross is not a good move and may lead to death...what does that tell you?

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