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    Ahmed Shafik is out

    No one was going to vote for him anyway but now it is official.

    SCAF signed the political participation law put forward by parliament.

    Now he can join his friends in Tora prison
    IKHWAN AL SHAITAN

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    Parliament has agreed on amendments to the Disenfranchisement Law ^^^^^^^ above.

    It will not only be high figures like Suleiman and Shaifk.

    According to the new amendments, the ban on holding higher public office extends to to any public servant, minister, and member of Parliament, Shura Council or local council who spread 'corruption in Egypt’s political life' or 'harmed the national interest' after November 1973.

    The amendments also include anyone who used their political position to secure employment in public or private institutions and companies, or to influence the pricing of public property, crops and financial securities.

    The amendments extend the law to those who tried to influence Egypt’s judiciary or participated in rigging elections.

    The amendments were presented by MP Sobhi Saleh of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party
    Last edited by Abu Sina; Apr 24 2012 at 01:22 AM.
    IKHWAN AL SHAITAN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Sina View Post
    Ahmed Shafik is out

    No one was going to vote for him anyway but now it is official.

    SCAF signed the political participation law put forward by parliament.

    Now he can join his friends in Tora prison
    Not quite, at least according to the BBC:

    The change could affect Ahmed Shafiq, who served as prime minister last year. Reports say the amended law could be published on Thursday, when the final list of candidates will be announced. Legal experts say that if the amendment is published second, it might have no legal bearing on the candidate list, allowing Mr Shafiq to stand next month.

    source

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Sina View Post
    Parliament has agreed on amendments to the Disenfranchisement Law ^^^^^^^ above.

    It will not only be high figures like Suleiman and Shaifk.

    According to the new amendments, the ban on holding higher public office extends to to any public servant, minister, and member of Parliament, Shura Council or local council who spread 'corruption in Egypt’s political life' or 'harmed the national interest' after November 1973.

    The amendments also include anyone who used their political position to secure employment in public or private institutions and companies, or to influence the pricing of public property, crops and financial securities.

    The amendments extend the law to those who tried to influence Egypt’s judiciary or participated in rigging elections.

    The amendments were presented by MP Sobhi Saleh of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party
    What is your source?

    Again according to the peviously posted BBC source :

    Egypt's ruling generals have approved an amendment to a law that would bar senior officials from the Mubarak era from running for president.

    If the law is as you state then it reinforces the impression that your junta are keeping their hands firmly on the reins. The law is so inprecise that it can be used to bar anyone all it takes is for your junta to decide the person has harmed the national interest. For example you have harmed the national interest by ridiculing the rape victim Lara Logan and increasing the shame already brought upon your country by so doing. It is supposed to be the democratically elected that decide what is in the national interest in a true democracy not a junta. What happens if the policies of your president after entering office are deemed to harm the national interest, does your junta simply dismiss him/her? If so then it is easy for them to rule by proxy using the threat of dismissal.
    Last edited by Tyrerik; Apr 24 2012 at 06:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrerik View Post
    Not quite, at least according to the BBC:

    The change could affect Ahmed Shafiq, who served as prime minister last year. Reports say the amended law could be published on Thursday, when the final list of candidates will be announced. Legal experts say that if the amendment is published second, it might have no legal bearing on the candidate list, allowing Mr Shafiq to stand next month.

    source
    Why are you looking at a UK site and not Egyptian site ?

    Tantawy signed the new law last night.

    It was made law last night Monday 23rd April 2012

    This is it

    74d06936-b1c5-432c-9662-74b7d74a1138.jpg
    IKHWAN AL SHAITAN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrerik View Post
    What is your source?

    Again according to the peviously posted BBC source :

    Egypt's ruling generals have approved an amendment to a law that would bar senior officials from the Mubarak era from running for president.

    If the law is as you state then it reinforces the impression that your junta are keeping their hands firmly on the reins. The law is so inprecise that it can be used to bar anyone all it takes is for your junta to decide the person has harmed the national interest. For example you have harmed the national interest by ridiculing the rape victim Lara Logan and increasing the shame already brought upon your country by so doing. It is supposed to be the democratically elected that decide what is in the national interest in a true democracy not a junta. What happens if the policies of your president after entering office are deemed to harm the national interest, does your junta simply dismiss him/her? If so then it is easy for them to rule by proxy using the threat of dismissal.
    What are you talking about???

    We already had the law it just was not enacted. It has nothing to do with SCAF.

    Parliament wanted it enacted but because SCAF is running the country in transition SCAF had to sign it making it enacted. Now it is.

    Today Parliament are putting on the names of who they want excluded from running for president this race. That is Shafik and could be also Mussa we will see if they add him too.

    This week they are also in parliament discussing adding amendments to the already exisiting law to bar other officlals. The ones I just put in the post above from holding any type of office for 10 years like governors, bascially anyone who is found guilty of corruption.

    It has nothing to do with SCAF. They purely were the ones authorizing it into action which they did for the parliament.

    As for Lara Logan she did not press charges. She was also in the country illegally after being deported the week previous. I would think that she would have been thankful for not being arrested and tried for illegal entry. To be sure no American would let something like that drop if they thought they had a chance in the courts. She had no defence, she was illegally in the country.

    get over it
    IKHWAN AL SHAITAN

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    Ah now I know what BBC is talking about


    Okay

    Laws are official once they are published on state newspaper Egyptian Gazette. This newspaper only is available to buy on Monday and Thursday.

    BBC probably think that because it is not in Gazette till Thursday it will be too late because names are finalized on Thursday.

    Parliament handed photocopy of SCAF endorsement to Al Shorouk newspaper and they printed it last night. Once it is in print it is law in Egypt. So now all Parliament have to do is add his name to the document and others if they decide there are others they want to exclude.

    BBC obviously didn't know that Shorouk printed it making it law officially last night.

    I know you are clinging to hope of felool like Suleiman or Shafik for president but Egyptians are 10 steps ahead
    IKHWAN AL SHAITAN

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    If you are dreaming that Egyptians are angry with SCAF then keep dreaming

    This is probably the most popular thing that SCAF could have ever done since revolution.
    We can forgive them everything by doing this.
    It shows they did not intend backing any candidate even who everyone thought they backed Suleiman!!!!
    When they said they were not part of deciding who was president they I guess meant it by signing that law.

    They just jumped 100 point in estimation by Egyptians and this weeks other news feels like SCAF are looking forward to handing over the power and get back to dealing with our enemies and security that is their job after all
    IKHWAN AL SHAITAN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Sina View Post
    Why are you looking at a UK site and not Egyptian site ?

    Tantawy signed the new law last night.

    It was made law last night Monday 23rd April 2012

    This is it

    74d06936-b1c5-432c-9662-74b7d74a1138.jpg
    Its more reliable and more reliable than you too. Remember your state TV and the Copts attackng soldiers? Didn't you learn anything from that?

    Why doesn't Tantawi deserve to be with the rest of the gang in Tora, because he left the sinking ship in time looking after himself deserting them? What about all the years they were buddies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Sina View Post
    What are you talking about???

    We already had the law it just was not enacted. It has nothing to do with SCAF.

    Parliament wanted it enacted but because SCAF is running the country in transition SCAF had to sign it making it enacted. Now it is.

    Today Parliament are putting on the names of who they want excluded from running for president this race. That is Shafik and could be also Mussa we will see if they add him too.

    This week they are also in parliament discussing adding amendments to the already exisiting law to bar other officlals. The ones I just put in the post above from holding any type of office for 10 years like governors, bascially anyone who is found guilty of corruption.

    It has nothing to do with SCAF. They purely were the ones authorizing it into action which they did for the parliament.

    As for Lara Logan she did not press charges. She was also in the country illegally after being deported the week previous. I would think that she would have been thankful for not being arrested and tried for illegal entry. To be sure no American would let something like that drop if they thought they had a chance in the courts. She had no defence, she was illegally in the country.

    get over it
    So you couldn't come up with your source which conflicts with the BBC....

    You don't have a law until its enacted. ou cannot say it has nothing to do with your junta when they are the ones to decide whether it is in the national interest or not. They didn't have to sign it and even if they felt under pressure to do so they could for example delay it crucially. As I posted maybe it is maybe it isn't!

    That's not democracy for a parliament to decide the names of those they want excluded and those they don't.

    Yes, you were wrong to state that is wasn't just the top. So there isn't a law at present which bars someone convicted of corruption from holding public office? How very strange!

    You are derailing the thread with your comments about Lara Logan respond here instead of repeating a claim you previously failed to back up with any evidence.

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